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Why doesn’t hackernews just link directly to the archive? I’m guessing 99% of readers don’t have the paywalled version. It’s super annoying.

scoofy 2y ago
I think many people, myself included, would argue that that's immoral. The fact that you don't want to pay for access to The New Yorker is fine, but it doesn't mean that we should facilitate your desire to not pay, and that we've effectively normalized ignoring even reasonable copyright rules is a real problem for the industry (we can argue about the merits all we like, but pretending we shouldn't have to pay for an article with little public interest, published this week, is pretty absurd). We can look at aggregators like HN as a way to curate who you should be giving your money to, or we can use them to facilitate infringement, making publishers rely on sketchier and sketchier methods to stay afloat.
sysrestartusr 2y ago
start paying for your news. you won't regret it. three decades of free news leave you hanging bored and annoyed and misunderstanding humanity. if you want to stay tethered to this reality, commit to the pot. it's recursive and cumulative. otherwise you are left to research from free sources which leave you in 'directed' narratives, divergent and polarizing, devouring your fallacies while feeding off your bias. free beer is never a better of the available choices.
- tartoran 2y ago
  I agree we should pay but, I'm on the other side not paying because it's very hard to commit to so many subscription things. Back in the day I'd buy a bunch of magazines and would have subscription for tops 3 when I was really into the publication. Nowadays almost everything seems to want to be a subscription service and comes with some shady practices that really scared me away and assume I'm not a rare case either.
  - sysrestartusr 2y ago
    > shady practices that really scared me away and assume I'm not a rare case either. Definitely not the only one, which is ground for discourse, and a source for content, money, critical thinking, improvement and cognitive and linguistic mechanics that help others find their POV ... ... it's not just what it is, it's mostly what it is not and if you can put it in words and or find creators with guts, turn it into a sweeper ...
- kevinventullo 2y ago
  Every source, free or paid, has narrative, bias, incentives.

scoofy 2y ago

I think many people, myself included, would argue that that's immoral. The fact that you don't want to pay for access to The New Yorker is fine, but it doesn't mean that we should facilitate your desire to not pay, and that we've effectively normalized ignoring even reasonable copyright rules is a real problem for the industry (we can argue about the merits all we like, but pretending we shouldn't have to pay for an article with little public interest, published this week, is pretty absurd). We can look at aggregators like HN as a way to curate who you should be giving your money to, or we can use them to facilitate infringement, making publishers rely on sketchier and sketchier methods to stay afloat.

sysrestartusr 2y ago

start paying for your news. you won't regret it. three decades of free news leave you hanging bored and annoyed and misunderstanding humanity. if you want to stay tethered to this reality, commit to the pot. it's recursive and cumulative. otherwise you are left to research from free sources which leave you in 'directed' narratives, divergent and polarizing, devouring your fallacies while feeding off your bias. free beer is never a better of the available choices.

tartoran 2y ago
I agree we should pay but, I'm on the other side not paying because it's very hard to commit to so many subscription things. Back in the day I'd buy a bunch of magazines and would have subscription for tops 3 when I was really into the publication. Nowadays almost everything seems to want to be a subscription service and comes with some shady practices that really scared me away and assume I'm not a rare case either.
- sysrestartusr 2y ago
  > shady practices that really scared me away and assume I'm not a rare case either. Definitely not the only one, which is ground for discourse, and a source for content, money, critical thinking, improvement and cognitive and linguistic mechanics that help others find their POV ... ... it's not just what it is, it's mostly what it is not and if you can put it in words and or find creators with guts, turn it into a sweeper ...
kevinventullo 2y ago
Every source, free or paid, has narrative, bias, incentives.