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There has been drama about V and its creator perhaps? I do not remember what exactly. Could anyone remind me what it was all about? Oh, the vaporware thing? B

There has been drama about V and its creator perhaps? I do not remember what exactly. Could anyone remind me what it was all about? Oh, the vaporware thing? BTW I checked the Patreon page. It says "V 1.0 release is planned for 2020". Might want to change that. :D

square_usual 2y ago
V overpromised and underdelivered, and the creator is pretty abrasive and went to war with anyone who criticized it, so most people stopped paying attention to it until it fulfills what was promised.
- baranul 2y ago
  It would be fair to say that many would disagree or have different opinions about the language and the creator. V's creator has an open discussion for criticism[1], which many other languages don't have. After reading various related threads, the strange abrasiveness and negativity often seems to be from others, not the other way around. Clearly, many people are paying attention to V. It is quite popular at GitHub with over 36.2k stars, 2.2k forks, and 775 contributors. [1] https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610 https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610
hiccuphippo 2y ago
I remember looking at their code years ago and the network library was calling the curl cli. I didn't pay attention to it since then.
- amedvednikov 2y ago
  The network library doesn't use curl: https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net
  - tauraamui 2y ago
    They said years ago, when they last took a look. Just a thought, maybe just let all this go, people are complicated, you'll never please everyone. It's not worth the time trying. If anything you're giving them more ammo to prove them right about your attitude to negative takes. I'm not taking sides, just my opinion! :)
    - johnisgood 2y ago
      I think it is still useful to correct them. The language is not the same as it was a few years ago, it applies to every programming languages (depending on how far we go in time).
      - baranul 2y ago
        Agree. If there is no correction or counter, then this allows a negative narrative or falsehoods to be continually pushed. By people seeing that there is at least another side to the argument, it can promote fact checking, fairness, or open-mindedness.

square_usual 2y ago

V overpromised and underdelivered, and the creator is pretty abrasive and went to war with anyone who criticized it, so most people stopped paying attention to it until it fulfills what was promised.

baranul 2y ago
It would be fair to say that many would disagree or have different opinions about the language and the creator. V's creator has an open discussion for criticism[1], which many other languages don't have. After reading various related threads, the strange abrasiveness and negativity often seems to be from others, not the other way around. Clearly, many people are paying attention to V. It is quite popular at GitHub with over 36.2k stars, 2.2k forks, and 775 contributors. [1] https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610 https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610

hiccuphippo 2y ago

I remember looking at their code years ago and the network library was calling the curl cli. I didn't pay attention to it since then.

amedvednikov 2y ago
The network library doesn't use curl: https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net
- tauraamui 2y ago
  They said years ago, when they last took a look. Just a thought, maybe just let all this go, people are complicated, you'll never please everyone. It's not worth the time trying. If anything you're giving them more ammo to prove them right about your attitude to negative takes. I'm not taking sides, just my opinion! :)
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    I think it is still useful to correct them. The language is not the same as it was a few years ago, it applies to every programming languages (depending on how far we go in time).
    - baranul 2y ago
      Agree. If there is no correction or counter, then this allows a negative narrative or falsehoods to be continually pushed. By people seeing that there is at least another side to the argument, it can promote fact checking, fairness, or open-mindedness.