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This thinking is a memetic poison created by the exact people that need to be shamed out of the public discourse. I used to agree with it, but seeing how it's b

by duped 2y ago

This thinking is a memetic poison created by the exact people that need to be shamed out of the public discourse. I used to agree with it, but seeing how it's been coopted by the bigots, I reject the premise entirely. No one is calling Christians stupid. The nutjobs that want to tear down our secular society and replace it with a white Evangelical ethnostate are telling Christians that their political rivals are calling them stupid. They're the suckers for the conmen, and at this point, it's not worth attempting to rationalize debate.

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
Well, keep doing what you're doing then. I mean, we really showed them, the religious right is certainly in retreat after all that shaming.
- watwut 2y ago
  They literally vote for the most insulting person available, again and again. If anything, Trumps winning twice and conservatives in general getting votes is that being polite and nice is completely failing strategy. Democrats and centrists were nice and respectful for years while conservative were increasingly insulting ... and increasingly oversensitive creating outrages over nothing. This demand for one sided niceness that amounts to submissivity was is is contraproductive. The meat of the article are actual bad acts. You are just using the tone to distract from the actual accusations.
  - ultimafan 2y ago
    >Democrats and centrists were nice and respectful for years This is only really true on the political level, not the cultural/social level. Politicians on the left have been significantly more respectful than their counterparts for a long time now. But the same can't really be said for the sentiments of their voter base or the media/education curated towards them. For a large amount of people what they see and experience in their day to day lives does more to color their beliefs than what a politician says that they have no relation to and might see a few sound bites of here and there running up to an election. The left has to learn that telling a prospective voter repeatedly that they are the enemy won't make anyone want to support them unless they're already believers. It'll just push them towards the side that's offering to call them an ally.
    - chuckadams 2y ago
      > Politicians on the left have been significantly more respectful than their counterparts for a long time now. And that's why they're losing.
    - watwut 2y ago
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by duped 2y ago

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

Well, keep doing what you're doing then. I mean, we really showed them, the religious right is certainly in retreat after all that shaming.

watwut 2y ago
They literally vote for the most insulting person available, again and again. If anything, Trumps winning twice and conservatives in general getting votes is that being polite and nice is completely failing strategy. Democrats and centrists were nice and respectful for years while conservative were increasingly insulting ... and increasingly oversensitive creating outrages over nothing. This demand for one sided niceness that amounts to submissivity was is is contraproductive. The meat of the article are actual bad acts. You are just using the tone to distract from the actual accusations.
- ultimafan 2y ago
  >Democrats and centrists were nice and respectful for years This is only really true on the political level, not the cultural/social level. Politicians on the left have been significantly more respectful than their counterparts for a long time now. But the same can't really be said for the sentiments of their voter base or the media/education curated towards them. For a large amount of people what they see and experience in their day to day lives does more to color their beliefs than what a politician says that they have no relation to and might see a few sound bites of here and there running up to an election. The left has to learn that telling a prospective voter repeatedly that they are the enemy won't make anyone want to support them unless they're already believers. It'll just push them towards the side that's offering to call them an ally.
  - chuckadams 2y ago
    > Politicians on the left have been significantly more respectful than their counterparts for a long time now. And that's why they're losing.
  - watwut 2y ago
    [dead]