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Tesla's non-truck vehicles all look the same and the design is dated. They have yet to prove they can do a car redesign successfully to my knowledge. It takes a

Tesla's non-truck vehicles all look the same and the design is dated. They have yet to prove they can do a car redesign successfully to my knowledge. It takes a lot of effort for a car company to redesign and re-tool their factories to produce a quality new version of a vehicle. They had massive problems when initially launching and until proven otherwise they could repeat those problems if/when they do a re-design. If Musk would step aside as CEO, they do a successful re-design of each model, offer an affordable bare bones EV (200mi range, slow 0-60, FWD), then I think the company would be rock-solid as an investment and sales would go through the roof and they would break past the 5% of total car sales barrier.

bryanlarsen 2y ago
Some of your comment is wrong, IMO. Some of it is correct. Last year I would have jumped in to correct your errors. But I've since sold my stock and am considering selling my car. One of Tesla's greatest assets were its fans. We've been burnt. Let the haters win.
- mattbrewsbytes 2y ago
  My comment is my opinion, its neither correct or incorrect. Car designs get dated and need refreshes every few years (my opinion). Tesla has not gone through this cycle that all other car manufacturers go through (fact?) so I think to prove itself it needs to successfully navigate that cycle. Opinionated, politicized CEOs of consumer products is not a good idea, doesn't matter what party affiliation. Its going to cause issues with the company and the board of directors would be justified in ousting someone like that. There's just not going to be a good outcome with someone like that at the helm.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    There is no major component of the Model 3/Y that has not seen a major redesign over the years: frame, motor, battery, Heat & A/C & battery/engine cooling/warming, suspension, computer, windows, auxiliary battery, et cetera.
    - mattbrewsbytes 2y ago
      I'm talking about external design of the vehicle. Kia and Hyundai are absolutely killing it with their design refreshes in the last few years. Its really hard to discern any Tesla model year from any other. After a while US consumers move on from past designs and want something new to look at.
      - bryanlarsen 2y ago
        You said "It takes a lot of effort for a car company to redesign and re-tool their factories to produce a quality new version of a vehicle." It doesn't take a lot of effort to re-tool for an external redesign.
Gud 2y ago
How can it be a rock solid investment, when Tesla’s market cap is twice as high as Toyotas? Maybe it was warranted when the growth was crazy, but their early advantage has been squandered by their whack job CEO.

bryanlarsen 2y ago

Some of your comment is wrong, IMO. Some of it is correct. Last year I would have jumped in to correct your errors. But I've since sold my stock and am considering selling my car. One of Tesla's greatest assets were its fans. We've been burnt. Let the haters win.

mattbrewsbytes 2y ago
My comment is my opinion, its neither correct or incorrect. Car designs get dated and need refreshes every few years (my opinion). Tesla has not gone through this cycle that all other car manufacturers go through (fact?) so I think to prove itself it needs to successfully navigate that cycle. Opinionated, politicized CEOs of consumer products is not a good idea, doesn't matter what party affiliation. Its going to cause issues with the company and the board of directors would be justified in ousting someone like that. There's just not going to be a good outcome with someone like that at the helm.
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  There is no major component of the Model 3/Y that has not seen a major redesign over the years: frame, motor, battery, Heat & A/C & battery/engine cooling/warming, suspension, computer, windows, auxiliary battery, et cetera.
  - mattbrewsbytes 2y ago
    I'm talking about external design of the vehicle. Kia and Hyundai are absolutely killing it with their design refreshes in the last few years. Its really hard to discern any Tesla model year from any other. After a while US consumers move on from past designs and want something new to look at.
    - bryanlarsen 2y ago
      You said "It takes a lot of effort for a car company to redesign and re-tool their factories to produce a quality new version of a vehicle." It doesn't take a lot of effort to re-tool for an external redesign.

Gud 2y ago

How can it be a rock solid investment, when Tesla’s market cap is twice as high as Toyotas? Maybe it was warranted when the growth was crazy, but their early advantage has been squandered by their whack job CEO.