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Both facts. EU is pushing for an end-to-end to end encryption and there is no freedom of expression in Europe. Norway tried to jail a lesbian for believing that

Both facts. EU is pushing for an end-to-end to end encryption and there is no freedom of expression in Europe. Norway tried to jail a lesbian for believing that men can't become women. You may disagree with her, but it's ridiculous that she should be in jail for her view. Scotland makes it illegal to pray silently in your own home in some cases. UK already makes it illegal to pray silently in your own head. How much more draconian can you get?

fransje26 2y ago
> Both facts. EU is pushing for an end-to-end to end encryption No. Some actors are pushing for an end of end-to-end encryption, which doesn't mean it's an EU fact. In fact, it just got rejected in the French parliament. > Norway tried to jail a lesbian No. A person got investigate for hate-speech, which is perfectly within the bounds of "freedom of speech". The fact that she did not go to prison shows the system works as intended. > Scotland makes it illegal to pray silently in your own home > UK already makes it illegal to pray in your own home. No. Debunked as nonsense.
- flanked-evergl 2y ago
  European Threat To End-To-End Encryption Would Invade Phones https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/05/07/european-threat-to-end-to-end-encryption-would-invade-phones/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/05/07/europ... European Police Chiefs call for industry and governments to take action against end-to-end encryption roll-out https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/european-police-chiefs-call-for-industry-and-governments-to-take-action-against-end-to-end-encryption-roll-out https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/euro... Norwegian actress Tonje Gjevjon faces up to 3 years in prison for saying men cannot be lesbians https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-years-in-prison-for-saying-men-cannot-be-lesbians/ https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-ye... British Man Convicted of Criminal Charges for Praying Silently Near Abortion Clinic https://reason.com/2024/10/17/british-man-convicted-of-criminal-charges-for-praying-silently-near-abortion-clinic/ https://reason.com/2024/10/17/british-man-convicted-of-crimi...
  - avh02 2y ago
    you went from "in your own home" to "near abortion clinic" real quick. And abortion clinics IIRC are an area protected from protests or something along those lines. The man knew. He was told multiple times. He didn't have to pray there. Pretty sure big man upstairs wouldn't mind if he went a few meters down the street. edit, source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9kp7r00vo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9kp7r00vo further edit: i see said "in your own head", yes, it is in your own head, but the intention is intimidating to those who want healthcare. Pretty sure prayer is not localized.
    - flanked-evergl 2y ago
      it's not happening, and it's good that it is happening

fransje26 2y ago

> Both facts. EU is pushing for an end-to-end to end encryption No. Some actors are pushing for an end of end-to-end encryption, which doesn't mean it's an EU fact. In fact, it just got rejected in the French parliament. > Norway tried to jail a lesbian No. A person got investigate for hate-speech, which is perfectly within the bounds of "freedom of speech". The fact that she did not go to prison shows the system works as intended. > Scotland makes it illegal to pray silently in your own home > UK already makes it illegal to pray in your own home. No. Debunked as nonsense.

flanked-evergl 2y ago
European Threat To End-To-End Encryption Would Invade Phones https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/05/07/european-threat-to-end-to-end-encryption-would-invade-phones/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/05/07/europ... European Police Chiefs call for industry and governments to take action against end-to-end encryption roll-out https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/european-police-chiefs-call-for-industry-and-governments-to-take-action-against-end-to-end-encryption-roll-out https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/euro... Norwegian actress Tonje Gjevjon faces up to 3 years in prison for saying men cannot be lesbians https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-years-in-prison-for-saying-men-cannot-be-lesbians/ https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-ye... British Man Convicted of Criminal Charges for Praying Silently Near Abortion Clinic https://reason.com/2024/10/17/british-man-convicted-of-criminal-charges-for-praying-silently-near-abortion-clinic/ https://reason.com/2024/10/17/british-man-convicted-of-crimi...
- avh02 2y ago
  you went from "in your own home" to "near abortion clinic" real quick. And abortion clinics IIRC are an area protected from protests or something along those lines. The man knew. He was told multiple times. He didn't have to pray there. Pretty sure big man upstairs wouldn't mind if he went a few meters down the street. edit, source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9kp7r00vo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9kp7r00vo further edit: i see said "in your own head", yes, it is in your own head, but the intention is intimidating to those who want healthcare. Pretty sure prayer is not localized.
  - flanked-evergl 2y ago
    it's not happening, and it's good that it is happening