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Alternatively, junior devs with ai web search and ai explanations are able to learn much faster and not bother senior devs with compiler error puzzles.

by cma 2y ago

hooverd 2y ago
> are able to but they won't. they'll just give up if the auto-complete doesn't fix it for them.
n_ary 2y ago
But if those aspiring juniors stop asking those questions and the seniors not answer them in open web, neither LLMs nor juniors have new training data and both become stagnated. How do we solve this? At my early days, I learned more reading code from much senior engineers and began to appreciate it. An effective seasoned senior writes a beautiful poetry that conveys deeper meaning and solves the entertainment(erm… business requirement) purpose. If the seniors retire and the juniors are no longer hired, then where do LLMs get new data from? In all sense of things, I suspect we’ll see more juniors getting hired in coming years and few seniors present to guide them, same as how we previously had few db specialists and architects giving out the outline and the followers made those into actual products.
- aforwardslash 2y ago
  The way forward I see is a path to autonomous development; human development is boutique dev or supervision; a good example are x86-64 assembly skills today. The gross of dev will be handled by AI, specially the mindless crud stuff with browser integration. When you skip the whole intermediate language and/or can generate a high level binary definition spec that can be compiled, its game over. Development as we know it is dead, and people will target intermediate ai-solvable code, as they do today to satisfy various pipelines such as testing or cyclomatic complexity.
aforwardslash 2y ago
Why should a company pay X for a guy that will take 10 years to understand how apps fail, when he can just hire a guy at X2 or X3? Specially if in 3-5 years, you can skip the guys altogether?

Alternatively, junior devs with ai web search and ai explanations are able to learn much faster and not bother senior devs with compiler error puzzles.

by cma 2y ago

Alternatively, junior devs with ai web search and ai explanations are able to learn much faster and not bother senior devs with compiler error puzzles.

hooverd 2y ago

> are able to but they won't. they'll just give up if the auto-complete doesn't fix it for them.

n_ary 2y ago

But if those aspiring juniors stop asking those questions and the seniors not answer them in open web, neither LLMs nor juniors have new training data and both become stagnated. How do we solve this? At my early days, I learned more reading code from much senior engineers and began to appreciate it. An effective seasoned senior writes a beautiful poetry that conveys deeper meaning and solves the entertainment(erm… business requirement) purpose. If the seniors retire and the juniors are no longer hired, then where do LLMs get new data from? In all sense of things, I suspect we’ll see more juniors getting hired in coming years and few seniors present to guide them, same as how we previously had few db specialists and architects giving out the outline and the followers made those into actual products.

aforwardslash 2y ago
The way forward I see is a path to autonomous development; human development is boutique dev or supervision; a good example are x86-64 assembly skills today. The gross of dev will be handled by AI, specially the mindless crud stuff with browser integration. When you skip the whole intermediate language and/or can generate a high level binary definition spec that can be compiled, its game over. Development as we know it is dead, and people will target intermediate ai-solvable code, as they do today to satisfy various pipelines such as testing or cyclomatic complexity.

aforwardslash 2y ago

Why should a company pay X for a guy that will take 10 years to understand how apps fail, when he can just hire a guy at X2 or X3? Specially if in 3-5 years, you can skip the guys altogether?