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> For instance, the cost of German Puma tanks was exploded by regulations requiring them to be able to safely carry pregnant soldiers without exposing their amn

by piva00 2y ago

> For instance, the cost of German Puma tanks was exploded by regulations requiring them to be able to safely carry pregnant soldiers without exposing their amniotic fluids to munitions fumes. This sounds like the German version of the bendy bananas lie told to Brits about EU regulations, a lie enveloped around some small fact and overblown to look as ridiculous as possible. Also, the Greens pushing for money to wean Germany off gas is probably quite good for national security, not directly military related but does help in 2nd order effects (less reliance on fossil fuels saves the German economy from being a hostage to cheap gas as well as helps keeping fuel for the military if the need arises).

mike_hearn 2y ago
Nothing dishonest or overblown about the EU regulating bendy bananas. The EU even admitted its regulation of misshapen fruit was stupid and wasteful in a press release: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/mex_08_0723 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/mex_08... You aren't the first HN poster to claim this was some sort of British propaganda, even though the regulations are perfectly readable online and still in effect. You can just search for "eu bendy bananas" and the first hit is a Wikipedia page all about it. Where does this idea that it was British propaganda come from? What are European media telling you about this?
- dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
  You're misrepresenting what the link says, and it doesn't even apply to bananas. What is does say is that certain fruits and vegetables don't benefit from "minimum marketing standards" and some misshapen products may be sold if labeled as intended for processing. What all this is is reasonable efforts to define standards for marketing, but it misrepresented by "British propaganda" as something hysterical, just like you misrepresent the press release for the sake of your straw man argument.
  - mike_hearn 2y ago
    They said they wanted to change the rules to allow that, not that it'd always been that way from the start. The original claims that led to them admitting it was dumb weren't "hysterical" (since when is pointing out regulation even the EU admits is bad hysterical?)
    - dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
      Why don't you address the point instead of prevaricating? The narrative you're describing is not based on any facts but simple hate for the EU. Rejecting the plain facts doesn't help you.
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by piva00 2y ago

mike_hearn 2y ago

Nothing dishonest or overblown about the EU regulating bendy bananas. The EU even admitted its regulation of misshapen fruit was stupid and wasteful in a press release: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/mex_08_0723 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/mex_08... You aren't the first HN poster to claim this was some sort of British propaganda, even though the regulations are perfectly readable online and still in effect. You can just search for "eu bendy bananas" and the first hit is a Wikipedia page all about it. Where does this idea that it was British propaganda come from? What are European media telling you about this?

dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
You're misrepresenting what the link says, and it doesn't even apply to bananas. What is does say is that certain fruits and vegetables don't benefit from "minimum marketing standards" and some misshapen products may be sold if labeled as intended for processing. What all this is is reasonable efforts to define standards for marketing, but it misrepresented by "British propaganda" as something hysterical, just like you misrepresent the press release for the sake of your straw man argument.
- mike_hearn 2y ago
  They said they wanted to change the rules to allow that, not that it'd always been that way from the start. The original claims that led to them admitting it was dumb weren't "hysterical" (since when is pointing out regulation even the EU admits is bad hysterical?)
  - dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
    Why don't you address the point instead of prevaricating? The narrative you're describing is not based on any facts but simple hate for the EU. Rejecting the plain facts doesn't help you.
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