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Looking at the "note taking" screenshot, their virtual keyboard style is shameless. Screenshot: http://cdn.techpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Capture1.jpg h

Looking at the "note taking" screenshot, their virtual keyboard style is shameless. Screenshot: http://cdn.techpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Capture1.jpg http://cdn.techpp.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Capture1.jp...

RaduTyrsina 14y ago
what do you mean by that?
- rajupp 14y ago
  He means it looks like a total rip-off of some fruit company
- dkokelley 14y ago
  I'm guessing that it refers to the similarity to the iOS keyboard look and feel.
- thezilch 14y ago
  They ripped off Apple's significantly contrasting, virtually elevated, rounded-corner button invention.</sarcasm>
  - georgemcbay 14y ago
    Well, they did. And I say that as someone who really dislikes Apple. That keyboard looks like someone took the iPad keyboard and beat it with an ugly stick a little bit. What makes this especially sad is that the default Android keyboard is really good and they should have just used that, but in an attempt to "differentiate" they basically just badly copied the iPad. As much as I dislike Apple for the current lawsuit mess, I'm starting to dislike Samsung just as much because unlike most of the rest of the Android ecosystem Samsung clearly DO have a problem with badly copying Apple's design elements to a confusingly similar degree which gives an unfortunate truth to at least some of Apple's claims which then makes it harder for the layman to see when Apple is overstepping. Fix your shit, Samsung. Hire a couple of real designers.
    - thezilch 14y ago
      Nah, I think it looks and functions as much like iOS keyboards as it does my G1's physical keys: http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/android-open.jpg http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/android-open.jp... Maybe even the G1 took hints from iOS, but I'd be dubious to believe Apple created or holds any merits over much of their design(s). Does Samsung lift Apple designs? I think so. Does Apple own much of the designs they have legal documents over? I think not. I don't believe this is about confusing customers; I think it is about closing the gap with customer awareness. I'd love for most of these interfaces to share common grounds; I think it is a large reason to why Windows, OSX, and GNU/Linux <insert GUI> are so fragmented and unfamiliar to those that have to or are looking to move between platforms.
  - pook1e 14y ago
    I'd rather not focus on this because the video showed off some great features, but when the keyboard first came up I honestly thought it was an iPad keyboard (this coming from someone who doesn't own a single Apple product). Maybe it was the colors, or maybe it was the positioning of the punctuation, but this is just an invitation for more lawsuits. I really wish they would have kept the stock Android keyboard. Sadly, the resemblance of the keyboard is going to be what generates the most discussion, not the new (and very impressive) features.
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  I think he means it resembles iPad's keyboard to the unexperienced eyes[1]: light keys on a gray background, "blue" glow on shift key, essentially the same (though much uglier) graphic for 'delete' key and placing '!' on top of ',' just like iPad's (they have a number row at top; why didn't they add it to '1' key like all other keyboards on the planet have done for the past 4 decades? and they have lots of keys on that gigantic keyboard, why didn't they add the much-used quotation marks and went with just adding '?' and '!'?). [1]: experienced eyes will spot readily that it's much uglier, and waaay less polished.
  - RaduTyrsina 14y ago
    Well, everybody ripped off everybody, it's just the fault of the patent system
    - wklauss 14y ago
      Not true. The last stock keyboard for Android doesn't resemble any other I know. Nor does the Windows Phone 7 / Windows 7 one. This "there's no other way to do an X" argument is getting really tiring. I don't really care about this Apple vs Samsung nonsense (let the judge decide) but i think theres pretty strong evidence that you can do innovative and creative design if you put yourself to the task.
westerneq 14y ago
...not to mention the automatic typesetting of the handwritten diff. eq.
donniezazen 14y ago
Android has got a bazillion time superior keyboard than Apple's, not to mention other choices. Samsung just wants to continue game of lawsuits.

RaduTyrsina 14y ago

what do you mean by that?

rajupp 14y ago
He means it looks like a total rip-off of some fruit company
dkokelley 14y ago
I'm guessing that it refers to the similarity to the iOS keyboard look and feel.
thezilch 14y ago
They ripped off Apple's significantly contrasting, virtually elevated, rounded-corner button invention.</sarcasm>
- georgemcbay 14y ago
  Well, they did. And I say that as someone who really dislikes Apple. That keyboard looks like someone took the iPad keyboard and beat it with an ugly stick a little bit. What makes this especially sad is that the default Android keyboard is really good and they should have just used that, but in an attempt to "differentiate" they basically just badly copied the iPad. As much as I dislike Apple for the current lawsuit mess, I'm starting to dislike Samsung just as much because unlike most of the rest of the Android ecosystem Samsung clearly DO have a problem with badly copying Apple's design elements to a confusingly similar degree which gives an unfortunate truth to at least some of Apple's claims which then makes it harder for the layman to see when Apple is overstepping. Fix your shit, Samsung. Hire a couple of real designers.
  - thezilch 14y ago
    Nah, I think it looks and functions as much like iOS keyboards as it does my G1's physical keys: http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/android-open.jpg http://mossblog.allthingsd.com/files/2008/09/android-open.jp... Maybe even the G1 took hints from iOS, but I'd be dubious to believe Apple created or holds any merits over much of their design(s). Does Samsung lift Apple designs? I think so. Does Apple own much of the designs they have legal documents over? I think not. I don't believe this is about confusing customers; I think it is about closing the gap with customer awareness. I'd love for most of these interfaces to share common grounds; I think it is a large reason to why Windows, OSX, and GNU/Linux <insert GUI> are so fragmented and unfamiliar to those that have to or are looking to move between platforms.
- pook1e 14y ago
  I'd rather not focus on this because the video showed off some great features, but when the keyboard first came up I honestly thought it was an iPad keyboard (this coming from someone who doesn't own a single Apple product). Maybe it was the colors, or maybe it was the positioning of the punctuation, but this is just an invitation for more lawsuits. I really wish they would have kept the stock Android keyboard. Sadly, the resemblance of the keyboard is going to be what generates the most discussion, not the new (and very impressive) features.
pooriaazimi 14y ago
I think he means it resembles iPad's keyboard to the unexperienced eyes[1]: light keys on a gray background, "blue" glow on shift key, essentially the same (though much uglier) graphic for 'delete' key and placing '!' on top of ',' just like iPad's (they have a number row at top; why didn't they add it to '1' key like all other keyboards on the planet have done for the past 4 decades? and they have lots of keys on that gigantic keyboard, why didn't they add the much-used quotation marks and went with just adding '?' and '!'?). [1]: experienced eyes will spot readily that it's much uglier, and waaay less polished.
- RaduTyrsina 14y ago
  Well, everybody ripped off everybody, it's just the fault of the patent system
  - wklauss 14y ago
    Not true. The last stock keyboard for Android doesn't resemble any other I know. Nor does the Windows Phone 7 / Windows 7 one. This "there's no other way to do an X" argument is getting really tiring. I don't really care about this Apple vs Samsung nonsense (let the judge decide) but i think theres pretty strong evidence that you can do innovative and creative design if you put yourself to the task.

westerneq 14y ago

...not to mention the automatic typesetting of the handwritten diff. eq.

donniezazen 14y ago

Android has got a bazillion time superior keyboard than Apple's, not to mention other choices. Samsung just wants to continue game of lawsuits.