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There are several countries that demand your photo on resumes, especially the German speaking ones.

by sdhar45 2y ago

blueflow 2y ago
I'm german and i did not know this.
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago
  I'm also German: In former days (until perhaps the end of the 90s) sending in a photo as part of an application was expected. But by now the customs have changed.
atlintots 2y ago
They should stop doing that then. Absolutely no good reason for it in the first place, other than discrimination.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  In this day and age of AI overdrive, it may in fact be a more and more viable way to verify candidates.
  - lm28469 2y ago
    How so ?
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      Job applications already get inunduated with hundreds, thousands of candidates, of which 90% are bots submitting for canddiates. Some companies are resorting to the dreaded video submissions to filter that out, but even that may not be safe long term. Photos may not be the final solution to this flood of automation, but it's being dabbled with.
      - lm28469 2y ago
        Sure but I see absolutely no way a picture would allow you to tell if someone's a bot or not. You can already generate a profile picture and have it lip synced with a text to speech audio (or even speech to speech). It's a losing (lost?) fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8sgB-58q0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8sgB-58q0 Internet is rapidly becoming a pile of steaming shit already, captchas were annoying but now it seems the "are you a robot" test is coming everywhere, what a sad state of affairs. I wonder how much of the overall traffic is automated, 80%? 90% ?
      - bigtechennui 2y ago
        Adding a field that AI can generate cheaply sounds like a way to INCREASE AI spam
        johnnyanmac 2y ago
        cheap is part of the factor here. Pictures aren't expensive to generate, but are a magnitude more expensive than generating a bunch of text. Meanwhile, pictures are trivial for humans to verify against a simple search.
        blueflow 2y ago
        > Meanwhile, pictures are trivial for humans to verify against a simple search The majority of people do not have a picture of them on the Internet.
chromanoid 2y ago
What do you mean by "demand"? https://bewerbung.com/lebenslauf-ohne-bewerbungsfoto/ https://bewerbung.com/lebenslauf-ohne-bewerbungsfoto/ > Eine Bewerbung ohne Foto zu verschicken, ist in den vergangenen Jahren zu einem regelrechten Trend geworden. Bei vielen Personalern genießen Lebensläufe ohne Bewerbungsfoto daher eine hohe Akzeptanz [...]
- y42 2y ago
  I'd say that depends on the business area, the small "Krauter" around the corner probably requires a photo. But as this is not the target group of this project, I would argue that images are not really required.
- sdhar45 2y ago
  I meant it as more of a nice to have
- ho_schi 2y ago
  Disclaimer: I’m bad about remembering faces. Every photo with a name below helps me a lot. We shall not copy everything from America. And the site goes on… Trotzdem ist die Bewerbung ohne Foto nach wie vor eher die Ausnahme als die Regel. Denn ein sympathisches Bild erweckt einen guten ersten Eindruck. Somit wird Deine Bewerbung mit einer positiveren Grundeinstellung gesichtet, was zum Vorteil werden kann. Richtig gestaltet, drückt das Bewerberbild außerdem Professionalität aus, lässt Deine Persönlichkeit erkennen und verdeutlicht, dass Du zur Unternehmenskultur passt. Grundlegende Informationen wie Dein Geschlecht oder Deine Herkunft lassen sich aus Deinem Lebenslauf ohnehin oft ableiten, beispielsweise aus Deinem Namen. Zudem finden die Personaler im Internet meist schnell ein Foto von Dir, wenn gewünscht. The company will anyway see you, if you’re lucky. Your name, birthdate, education and address (people often underestimate the address) tell a lot. I don’t care about colors of hair, eyes or skin and the scar across the check is at least something which allows me to recognize a person.
  - Y_Y 2y ago
    In my humble European opinion, you shouldn't be including your date of birth or home address either. Full name is just about acceptable.
OhNoNotAgain_99 2y ago
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zerr 2y ago
It's a myth or 80s thing (maybe in GDR).
varispeed 2y ago
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romanovcode 2y ago
I worked in multiple German companies, never had photo in my CV, never had been asked for a photo. This is just not true.

There are several countries that demand your photo on resumes, especially the German speaking ones.

blueflow 2y ago

I'm german and i did not know this.

aleph_minus_one 2y ago
I'm also German: In former days (until perhaps the end of the 90s) sending in a photo as part of an application was expected. But by now the customs have changed.

atlintots 2y ago

They should stop doing that then. Absolutely no good reason for it in the first place, other than discrimination.

johnnyanmac 2y ago
In this day and age of AI overdrive, it may in fact be a more and more viable way to verify candidates.
- lm28469 2y ago
  How so ?
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    Job applications already get inunduated with hundreds, thousands of candidates, of which 90% are bots submitting for canddiates. Some companies are resorting to the dreaded video submissions to filter that out, but even that may not be safe long term. Photos may not be the final solution to this flood of automation, but it's being dabbled with.
    - lm28469 2y ago
      Sure but I see absolutely no way a picture would allow you to tell if someone's a bot or not. You can already generate a profile picture and have it lip synced with a text to speech audio (or even speech to speech). It's a losing (lost?) fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8sgB-58q0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK8sgB-58q0 Internet is rapidly becoming a pile of steaming shit already, captchas were annoying but now it seems the "are you a robot" test is coming everywhere, what a sad state of affairs. I wonder how much of the overall traffic is automated, 80%? 90% ?
    - bigtechennui 2y ago
      Adding a field that AI can generate cheaply sounds like a way to INCREASE AI spam
      - johnnyanmac 2y ago
        cheap is part of the factor here. Pictures aren't expensive to generate, but are a magnitude more expensive than generating a bunch of text. Meanwhile, pictures are trivial for humans to verify against a simple search.
        blueflow 2y ago
        > Meanwhile, pictures are trivial for humans to verify against a simple search The majority of people do not have a picture of them on the Internet.

chromanoid 2y ago

What do you mean by "demand"? https://bewerbung.com/lebenslauf-ohne-bewerbungsfoto/ https://bewerbung.com/lebenslauf-ohne-bewerbungsfoto/ > Eine Bewerbung ohne Foto zu verschicken, ist in den vergangenen Jahren zu einem regelrechten Trend geworden. Bei vielen Personalern genießen Lebensläufe ohne Bewerbungsfoto daher eine hohe Akzeptanz [...]

y42 2y ago
I'd say that depends on the business area, the small "Krauter" around the corner probably requires a photo. But as this is not the target group of this project, I would argue that images are not really required.
sdhar45 2y ago
I meant it as more of a nice to have
ho_schi 2y ago
Disclaimer: I’m bad about remembering faces. Every photo with a name below helps me a lot. We shall not copy everything from America. And the site goes on… Trotzdem ist die Bewerbung ohne Foto nach wie vor eher die Ausnahme als die Regel. Denn ein sympathisches Bild erweckt einen guten ersten Eindruck. Somit wird Deine Bewerbung mit einer positiveren Grundeinstellung gesichtet, was zum Vorteil werden kann. Richtig gestaltet, drückt das Bewerberbild außerdem Professionalität aus, lässt Deine Persönlichkeit erkennen und verdeutlicht, dass Du zur Unternehmenskultur passt. Grundlegende Informationen wie Dein Geschlecht oder Deine Herkunft lassen sich aus Deinem Lebenslauf ohnehin oft ableiten, beispielsweise aus Deinem Namen. Zudem finden die Personaler im Internet meist schnell ein Foto von Dir, wenn gewünscht. The company will anyway see you, if you’re lucky. Your name, birthdate, education and address (people often underestimate the address) tell a lot. I don’t care about colors of hair, eyes or skin and the scar across the check is at least something which allows me to recognize a person.
- Y_Y 2y ago
  In my humble European opinion, you shouldn't be including your date of birth or home address either. Full name is just about acceptable.

OhNoNotAgain_99 2y ago

[dead]

zerr 2y ago

It's a myth or 80s thing (maybe in GDR).

varispeed 2y ago

[flagged]

romanovcode 2y ago

I worked in multiple German companies, never had photo in my CV, never had been asked for a photo. This is just not true.