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This is unfortunate. I see an end to sharing in general if the powers that be have their way.

citricsquid 14y ago
I assume you mean "their way" as in: an end to all illegal sharing. If so, why is it unfortunate, surely no illegal sharing is a good thing?
- ianstallings 14y ago
  You're assuming that all sharing is illegal sharing. That's the same argument "they", the people working to shut down torrent sites, use.
  - citricsquid 14y ago
    So why would any company have any interest in shutting down legal sharing? Has there been any evidence that any media company has tried to shut down any legal sharing service that is only used for legal file sharing? It would seem you're implying that.
    - ktizo 14y ago
      Technology for sharing data does not care what data gets shared and has no way of doing so. Positing that nobody would shut down a service that is only used for legal sharing is therefore a fairly pointless exercise. Especially since definitions of legality vary so widely.
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- GFischer 14y ago
  Illegal and immoral are not the same thing. It could be illegal but moral in some cases (ok, torrents are mostly used for copyright infringement, I admit, but they do have moral and legal uses). Furthermore, it's not even illegal in every country (but we'll get the US laws applied anyways).
  - pooriaazimi 14y ago
    > Illegal and immoral are not the same thing. Yes. Some of use have no choice but to pirate (why? Our credit cards are not good for international transactions.) I buy multiple apps every week from Mac/iOS App Store, and would like to do so for other apps/books/... that are not available at Apple's stores, but I can't. So, I used demonoid and am now very sad that it's closed. Now I have to resort to googling 'warez [some app]' and spend hours trying to find a working link... :(
Dystopian 14y ago
I don't. I see a beginning of decentralized sharing and an influx of more anonymous, secure, internet usage.
w1ntermute 14y ago
That's highly unlikely. People said similar things when Oink was raided. And as Wikipedia notes, "Alan Ellis was tried for conspiracy to defraud at Teesside Crown court, the first person in the UK to be prosecuted for illegal file-sharing, and found not guilty on 15 January 2010." But now we have What.CD, which is infinitely better than Oink in terms of features and content. From What.CD, we also have Project Gazelle, which has made setting up new torrent sites much easier by providing up-to-date private torrent site software (what runs What.CD) under the GPL. And the What.CD admins have learned from Ellis's mistakes and set up the site in such a way that it can't be taken down so easily.

I assume you mean "their way" as in: an end to all illegal sharing. If so, why is it unfortunate, surely no illegal sharing is a good thing?

ianstallings 14y ago
You're assuming that all sharing is illegal sharing. That's the same argument "they", the people working to shut down torrent sites, use.
- citricsquid 14y ago
  So why would any company have any interest in shutting down legal sharing? Has there been any evidence that any media company has tried to shut down any legal sharing service that is only used for legal file sharing? It would seem you're implying that.
  - ktizo 14y ago
    Technology for sharing data does not care what data gets shared and has no way of doing so. Positing that nobody would shut down a service that is only used for legal sharing is therefore a fairly pointless exercise. Especially since definitions of legality vary so widely.
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GFischer 14y ago
Illegal and immoral are not the same thing. It could be illegal but moral in some cases (ok, torrents are mostly used for copyright infringement, I admit, but they do have moral and legal uses). Furthermore, it's not even illegal in every country (but we'll get the US laws applied anyways).
- pooriaazimi 14y ago
  > Illegal and immoral are not the same thing. Yes. Some of use have no choice but to pirate (why? Our credit cards are not good for international transactions.) I buy multiple apps every week from Mac/iOS App Store, and would like to do so for other apps/books/... that are not available at Apple's stores, but I can't. So, I used demonoid and am now very sad that it's closed. Now I have to resort to googling 'warez [some app]' and spend hours trying to find a working link... :(

Dystopian 14y ago

I don't. I see a beginning of decentralized sharing and an influx of more anonymous, secure, internet usage.

w1ntermute 14y ago

That's highly unlikely. People said similar things when Oink was raided. And as Wikipedia notes, "Alan Ellis was tried for conspiracy to defraud at Teesside Crown court, the first person in the UK to be prosecuted for illegal file-sharing, and found not guilty on 15 January 2010." But now we have What.CD, which is infinitely better than Oink in terms of features and content. From What.CD, we also have Project Gazelle, which has made setting up new torrent sites much easier by providing up-to-date private torrent site software (what runs What.CD) under the GPL. And the What.CD admins have learned from Ellis's mistakes and set up the site in such a way that it can't be taken down so easily.