5 ms·

My app appears at the top of a search if you specify sight reading but if you are searching for "learn piano" or similar keywords it will be no where near the t

My app appears at the top of a search if you specify sight reading but if you are searching for "learn piano" or similar keywords it will be no where near the top

pil0u 2y ago
I just learned via your post the term "sight reading" in English. French words and expressions when it comes to music are very different.
- rooster117 2y ago
  I've only recently localized the app but only the contents of the app. I'm sure there are a lot of easy improvements on discoverability I'm missing out on.
- alwa 2y ago
  Out of curiosity, what’s the French term for this technique?
  - patrocle 2y ago
    We call it "solfège".
    - thaumasiotes 2y ago
      Huh. My instinct was that (in English), "solfège" is just the name of the collection of notes. (The same way that "alphabet" is the name of the collection of letters beginning "A B C D E ...".) And interestingly enough, the English wikipedia page completely backs me up on that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge ("Solfège is a form of solmization, though the two terms are sometimes used interchangeably.") However, the English wiktionary page gives no gloss other than "a method of sight singing". (More fully, "A method of sight singing that uses the syllables do (originally ut), re, mi, fa, sol (or so), la, and si (or ti) to represent the seven principal pitches of the scale".) Merriam-Webster strongly supports the wikipedia definition, but it does note that "a method of sight-reading music" is an alternative, non-primary meaning. In French, does solfège refer to any sight reading? A common way to sight-read vocal music is to sing the actual lyrics as opposed to the note names. And by far the most common way to sight-read piano music is to play it without saying anything at all.
    - xibe 2y ago
      Akshually... According to Wikipédia FR, the French equivalent of Sight Reading is "Lecture à vue" [1]. Notes: - I'm French; - I learnt to play the piano as a teenager, and I'm trying to get back to it again as at 45+; - I too discovered the "sight reading" term online, but that was long ago (as I recall, through a video of an adult piano player doing "live sight-reading" versions of songs he didn't know beforehand, such as the Mario theme [2]; ... and YET neither have I ever heard of nor used "Lecture à vue" (that I remember of). I too would use "apprendre le solfège" (EN: learn solfège) when saying that I'm learning to read the notes on sheet music while playing at the same time. [1]: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecture_%C3%A0_vue https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecture_%C3%A0_vue (change language for confirmation) [2]: Possibly this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IkpUYlOx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IkpUYlOx8
      - amszmidt 2y ago
        Solmization, I think is maybe what you are looking for? It is where you sing a song using the Solfege (Do/Re/Mi....)? Though I wouldn't say that it is the same as "sight reading" -- but maybe "sight singing"?
- xibe 2y ago
  Indeed! When I first learnd that the English equivalent of... Do Ré Mi Fa Sol La Si Do ... is... C D E F G A B C ... it blew my mind :D I mean, I can see the point in using letters instead of words, alright. But why in that order? Even today I can't find the origin/reason for that -- apart from "It's a German thing" apparently. It could be just that the "German key notation") and the "Fixed Do key notation" were each created independently centuries ago, and thus differed. And once each system spread and reached users of the other, well, hello, my Do is your C and my A is your La :)
  - balfirevic 2y ago
    > But why in that order? Well, it's in the alphabetical order.
    - amszmidt 2y ago
      Maybe more importantly, it is in that specific order because it is the key of C major! The A major scale is for example would be A, B, C♯, D, E, F♯, and G♯ ... In fixed Solfège, that would become La Si Do ... but in movable Solfège, Do would be A, Re would be B ...
      - whiddershins 2y ago
        yeah but why isn't C major called A major
        amszmidt 2y ago
        The piano is a new instrument, when it was created its natural "place" was within the C major scale (all white keys); while A major requires 3 black keys. All instruments have a "sweet" spot for where they like to make sound. The baroque flute for example, prefers the key of D -- not C. The violin is very at home in the key of A. If you sit down at a piano, and find a place to put your fingers a somewhat natural place would where there are two white keys beside two black keys. And then press them in order.. C major scale.
      - 2y ago
DidYaWipe 2y ago
Apple's app-store search is a joke. Actually... it's not a joke; it's offensive to developers and users alike. You can search for the name of the publisher, spelled perfectly, and Apple will instead show you hundreds of screenfuls of apps that don't contain your search string ANYWHERE. This despite Apple claiming that publisher name is one of the top three criteria for search.

My app appears at the top of a search if you specify sight reading but if you are searching for "learn piano" or similar keywords it will be no where near the top

pil0u 2y ago

I just learned via your post the term "sight reading" in English. French words and expressions when it comes to music are very different.

rooster117 2y ago
I've only recently localized the app but only the contents of the app. I'm sure there are a lot of easy improvements on discoverability I'm missing out on.
alwa 2y ago
Out of curiosity, what’s the French term for this technique?
- patrocle 2y ago
  We call it "solfège".
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    Huh. My instinct was that (in English), "solfège" is just the name of the collection of notes. (The same way that "alphabet" is the name of the collection of letters beginning "A B C D E ...".) And interestingly enough, the English wikipedia page completely backs me up on that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge ("Solfège is a form of solmization, though the two terms are sometimes used interchangeably.") However, the English wiktionary page gives no gloss other than "a method of sight singing". (More fully, "A method of sight singing that uses the syllables do (originally ut), re, mi, fa, sol (or so), la, and si (or ti) to represent the seven principal pitches of the scale".) Merriam-Webster strongly supports the wikipedia definition, but it does note that "a method of sight-reading music" is an alternative, non-primary meaning. In French, does solfège refer to any sight reading? A common way to sight-read vocal music is to sing the actual lyrics as opposed to the note names. And by far the most common way to sight-read piano music is to play it without saying anything at all.
  - xibe 2y ago
    Akshually... According to Wikipédia FR, the French equivalent of Sight Reading is "Lecture à vue" [1]. Notes: - I'm French; - I learnt to play the piano as a teenager, and I'm trying to get back to it again as at 45+; - I too discovered the "sight reading" term online, but that was long ago (as I recall, through a video of an adult piano player doing "live sight-reading" versions of songs he didn't know beforehand, such as the Mario theme [2]; ... and YET neither have I ever heard of nor used "Lecture à vue" (that I remember of). I too would use "apprendre le solfège" (EN: learn solfège) when saying that I'm learning to read the notes on sheet music while playing at the same time. [1]: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecture_%C3%A0_vue https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecture_%C3%A0_vue (change language for confirmation) [2]: Possibly this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IkpUYlOx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9IkpUYlOx8
    - amszmidt 2y ago
      Solmization, I think is maybe what you are looking for? It is where you sing a song using the Solfege (Do/Re/Mi....)? Though I wouldn't say that it is the same as "sight reading" -- but maybe "sight singing"?
xibe 2y ago
Indeed! When I first learnd that the English equivalent of... Do Ré Mi Fa Sol La Si Do ... is... C D E F G A B C ... it blew my mind :D I mean, I can see the point in using letters instead of words, alright. But why in that order? Even today I can't find the origin/reason for that -- apart from "It's a German thing" apparently. It could be just that the "German key notation") and the "Fixed Do key notation" were each created independently centuries ago, and thus differed. And once each system spread and reached users of the other, well, hello, my Do is your C and my A is your La :)
- balfirevic 2y ago
  > But why in that order? Well, it's in the alphabetical order.
  - amszmidt 2y ago
    Maybe more importantly, it is in that specific order because it is the key of C major! The A major scale is for example would be A, B, C♯, D, E, F♯, and G♯ ... In fixed Solfège, that would become La Si Do ... but in movable Solfège, Do would be A, Re would be B ...
    - whiddershins 2y ago
      yeah but why isn't C major called A major
      - amszmidt 2y ago
        The piano is a new instrument, when it was created its natural "place" was within the C major scale (all white keys); while A major requires 3 black keys. All instruments have a "sweet" spot for where they like to make sound. The baroque flute for example, prefers the key of D -- not C. The violin is very at home in the key of A. If you sit down at a piano, and find a place to put your fingers a somewhat natural place would where there are two white keys beside two black keys. And then press them in order.. C major scale.
    - 2y ago

DidYaWipe 2y ago

Apple's app-store search is a joke. Actually... it's not a joke; it's offensive to developers and users alike. You can search for the name of the publisher, spelled perfectly, and Apple will instead show you hundreds of screenfuls of apps that don't contain your search string ANYWHERE. This despite Apple claiming that publisher name is one of the top three criteria for search.