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Seconding this. I'm unsure of interactions between antibiotics and detrimental gut flora such as Candida albicans, but Western medicine pretends that doesn’t e

Seconding this. I'm unsure of interactions between antibiotics and detrimental gut flora such as Candida albicans, but Western medicine pretends that doesn’t exist anyway

genewitch 2y ago
I've heard of Candida infections before. I also know what preem probiotics are and antibiotics, but what's a detrimental gut flora and how do you get rid of it?
- jmalicki 2y ago
  Gut flora are just the bacteria that live in your gut. Some are good (e.g. what you take probiotics to get more of), others are detrimental (e.g. h. Pylori, candida)
  - AStonesThrow 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans Candida is not microbial. Candida is a genus of fungus [yeast]. Gut fungus is in an entirely different class of treatment; antibiotics will not eradicate fungi, and fungus tends to grow tendrils and spores and generally work into every moist/dark crevice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori#Treatment Bacteria can be vanquished by digesting antimicrobials, but viruses are simpler/smaller, and fungus ain’t even in the same kingdom.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      I understand all of this; what i meant to ask, i think, is: How do these detrimental gut flora get in to our systems, and how do we prevent that, or get rid of them? Is taking more bacteria helpful, in that it can out-compete the fungus? My experience with lacto and yeast is that both of those are well-equipped to outcompete nearly everything, especially if you give them lots of pure sugar.
Tade0 2y ago
> but Western medicine pretends that doesn’t exist anyway What do mean by that? The leaflet for my tablets against throat infections specifically mentions candida strains taking over as a risk when overdoing the drug.
petre 2y ago
That's why you take fluconazole with your first dose of antibiotic.
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  Man, I ran a plan of some mental anagrams on that drug word, and all that’s missing is an “i” https://xkcd.com/2422/ https://xkcd.com/2422/ https://xkcd.com/2425/ https://xkcd.com/2425/

Seconding this. I'm unsure of interactions between antibiotics and detrimental gut flora such as Candida albicans, but Western medicine pretends that doesn’t exist anyway

genewitch 2y ago

I've heard of Candida infections before. I also know what preem probiotics are and antibiotics, but what's a detrimental gut flora and how do you get rid of it?

jmalicki 2y ago
Gut flora are just the bacteria that live in your gut. Some are good (e.g. what you take probiotics to get more of), others are detrimental (e.g. h. Pylori, candida)
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_albicans Candida is not microbial. Candida is a genus of fungus [yeast]. Gut fungus is in an entirely different class of treatment; antibiotics will not eradicate fungi, and fungus tends to grow tendrils and spores and generally work into every moist/dark crevice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicobacter_pylori#Treatment Bacteria can be vanquished by digesting antimicrobials, but viruses are simpler/smaller, and fungus ain’t even in the same kingdom.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    I understand all of this; what i meant to ask, i think, is: How do these detrimental gut flora get in to our systems, and how do we prevent that, or get rid of them? Is taking more bacteria helpful, in that it can out-compete the fungus? My experience with lacto and yeast is that both of those are well-equipped to outcompete nearly everything, especially if you give them lots of pure sugar.

Tade0 2y ago

> but Western medicine pretends that doesn’t exist anyway What do mean by that? The leaflet for my tablets against throat infections specifically mentions candida strains taking over as a risk when overdoing the drug.

petre 2y ago

That's why you take fluconazole with your first dose of antibiotic.

AStonesThrow 2y ago
Man, I ran a plan of some mental anagrams on that drug word, and all that’s missing is an “i” https://xkcd.com/2422/ https://xkcd.com/2422/ https://xkcd.com/2425/ https://xkcd.com/2425/