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One promise i would love to see him keep is turning the liabilities in europe into an asset. Instead of paying for european security, if we can charge them for
by TrapLord_Rhodo 2y ago
One promise i would love to see him keep is turning the liabilities in europe into an asset. Instead of paying for european security, if we can charge them for security and sell them weapons and tech from our big contractors, the US wins.
- lolinder 2y agoYeah, that's not happening. Summarily burning down bridges is a great way to stop people from mooching off you, but that's because they now know they can't rely on you to be a stable foundation. If they can't trust us not to break our previous promises, why in the world would they trust us with their national security-critical business?
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y agobecause we have bases and f22's in europe. Why is it burning bridges by telling europe to meet UN mandates?
- surgical_fire 2y agoHow is it not burning bridges to threat a trade war and annexation of one of the member state's territory? You really expect EU to stay friendly with the US when it is an active threat to its integrity?
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y agoWhat threat to its integrity? The 40 bases that have kept peace for the last 80 years? The massive amounts of funding that we have sent to aid europe through USAID and other orgs? The tech, and drugs and discoveries? We do not have to protect you forever, and us forcing you to step up military spending to comply with the UN mandates as there is an active war on your doorstep? Ensuring equal tarrifs from both sides? I don't know why the US taking itself off massively taxing it's citizens and increasing government revenue through tarrifs, is called a "Trade war". People seem to be so reliant on the US that the slightest sign that we aren't going to continue to hand out everything, people start getting hysterical.
- surgical_fire 2y ago> What threat to its integrity? Annexation of Greenland. It is part of Denmark as of now, even if it is not exactly a part of EU. The fact that you don't even seem to know that shows that you sre either arguing in bad faith or is ill informed. > We do not have to protect you forever Then leave. This arrangement benefits primarily the US. > I don't know why the US taking itself off massively taxing it's citizens and increasing government revenue through tarrifs, is called a "Trade war". You don't seem to understand how tariffs work either. Honestly, having this conversation with you is a waste of time. > People seem to be so reliant on the US Pehaps not anymore. We shall see. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
- bdangubic 2y agothis could have happened if he tried to get this worked out behind closed doors. doing this shit he’s doing it would be a political suicide for any country to go along with it. if our former allies are no longer such, they won’t come to US to pay for shit - they will go elsewhere
- TrapLord_Rhodo 2y agoHe already got germany to increase their US grant from $1B to $2B a year. So, he's actively working it.
- jemmyw 2y agoThat's the position the US was already in. The US was at peak "selling expensive weapons to Europe".
- surgical_fire 2y agoEU will not rely on a foreign hostile nation for its defense. Part of the 800B package is that the contractors have to be European.