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Anecdotally I perceive there’s been less open source JS libraries/frameworks being released lately. I generally keep an eye on JS/node weekly newsletters and no

Anecdotally I perceive there’s been less open source JS libraries/frameworks being released lately. I generally keep an eye on JS/node weekly newsletters and nothing has seemed interesting to me lately. Of course that could be my info bubble (Bluesky instead of twitter, newsletters, slightly less attracted to shiny than I used to be) Anybody else feel the same?

fizx 2y ago
AI is killing e.g. React Server Components and Svelte, but for different reasons. Vibe coding doesn't care about the implementation details, so Svelte is dead. A unified codebase might be better for humans. But a FE/BE database is better for AI, because you have a clear security boundary, separation of concerns, and well-known patterns for both individually.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 2y ago
  Disagree. Unified frameworks are better for AI, you can cohesively build a feature with the single output of the AI and it has an easier time integrating the two.
  - fizx 2y ago
    Hypothetically, yes. Practically, after having built ~10 small apps in a unified framework with Cursor and Claude Code, it doesn't seem true with today's AI.
georgemcbay 2y ago
My hobby project languages of choice these days are Kotlin multiplatform and Go, not JS, but there are multiple things I've worked on over the past year that I would have open sourced in the past but won't now because I'm not interested in freely helping with the big LLM slurp. I'm not ideologically against LLMs as a technology or the usage of them, but I do believe there is an inherent unfairness in the way a small set of companies have freely hoovered up all of this work meant to enhance the public commons (often using the most toxic and anti-social web crawling robots imaginable) while handwaving away what I believe are important copyright considerations. I'd rather just not release my own source code anymore than help them continue to do that.
- aforwardslash 2y ago
  Its funny you assume source code is needed to infer behaviour of a given application, or to be a valid training item for an AI.

fizx 2y ago

AI is killing e.g. React Server Components and Svelte, but for different reasons. Vibe coding doesn't care about the implementation details, so Svelte is dead. A unified codebase might be better for humans. But a FE/BE database is better for AI, because you have a clear security boundary, separation of concerns, and well-known patterns for both individually.

ldjkfkdsjnv 2y ago
Disagree. Unified frameworks are better for AI, you can cohesively build a feature with the single output of the AI and it has an easier time integrating the two.
- fizx 2y ago
  Hypothetically, yes. Practically, after having built ~10 small apps in a unified framework with Cursor and Claude Code, it doesn't seem true with today's AI.

georgemcbay 2y ago

My hobby project languages of choice these days are Kotlin multiplatform and Go, not JS, but there are multiple things I've worked on over the past year that I would have open sourced in the past but won't now because I'm not interested in freely helping with the big LLM slurp. I'm not ideologically against LLMs as a technology or the usage of them, but I do believe there is an inherent unfairness in the way a small set of companies have freely hoovered up all of this work meant to enhance the public commons (often using the most toxic and anti-social web crawling robots imaginable) while handwaving away what I believe are important copyright considerations. I'd rather just not release my own source code anymore than help them continue to do that.

aforwardslash 2y ago
Its funny you assume source code is needed to infer behaviour of a given application, or to be a valid training item for an AI.