https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17122591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17122591 DonHopkins on May 21, 2018 | root | parent | next [–] I'll write a

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17122591 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17122591 DonHopkins on May 21, 2018 | root | parent | next [–] I'll write a blog post about it soon, but I was hoping to benefit from other people's comments and links from discussing it here first. (You could accuse me of "crowd sourcing" my blog post, but I'd like to think of it as applying collective intelligence! ;) ) "The key thing about all the world's big problems is that they have to be dealt with collectively. If we don't get collectively smarter, we're doomed." -Douglass Engelbart, Intelligence in the Internet Age, New York Times, 9/19/05 https://collectiveiq.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/great-doug-engelbart-quotes/ https://collectiveiq.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/great-doug-eng... Or as the great philosopher Linda Richman said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiJkANps0Qw&feature=youtu.be&t=5m28s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiJkANps0Qw&feature=youtu.be... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17121632 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17121632 DonHopkins on May 21, 2018 | prev | next [–] Valerie Landau interviewed by Martin Wasserman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ig8ecXlrA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ig8ecXlrA Q: Some people will have to change their normal method of thinking? A: I think today, Aday really summed it up, that one of the things about collective intelligence means that we really have to start looking at ways that we can collectively share knowledge. And one of the problems with that is there are no good tools for sharing massive quantities of knowledge. So it's very hard to stay on top of things. So Doug's methodology creates maps and new ways of displaying data that we have not explored. So that we can really see large amounts of data, large amounts of knowledge, put them into structured arguments, so what he means by structure -- and maps, so that people can literally see what exists now and create very rapidly stragies -- both long term strategic planning, as well as tactical planning -- to address the issues that are confronting us. Q: Does this assume that if people have the same information they'll all come to the same conclusions? A: No, not at all. What it means that you will be able to look at data and make intelligent conclusions based on the best data we have currently. Because right now there is a lot of good data that is currently not available to the people who are making the decisions. He was saying that this was a dynamic knowledge repository and it was about allowing people to have an intelligence quotient. In other words, he saud that the infrastructure that you have to support a society determines the capability of that society. Just because we have all these capable tools doesn't necessarily mean that we'll behave intelligently, but it does allow us the chance to behave intelligently. So by improving our infrastructure, we're improving our intelligence QUOTIENT, not our actual intelligence. Just like the same people who are intelligent sometimes make bad choices, even though they're capable of making a better choice. Q: Now you say that Doug was interested in solving the most urgent problems of humanity. What type of problems was he referring to? A: He was definitely referring to things like Global Warming, issues around water, food, hunger, war, corruption was very high on Doug's list. He also followed very closely the work of the Millinenium Project, and so often times he would cite whatever they had cited. He would often cite those same issues. Q: Do you think his vision was going to become a reality at some point? A: I think yes, if I didn't I don't think I would have spend the last 30 years following it. Q: What did you find most impressive about him as a person? A: His humility. He was such a humble man, and his steadfastness of keeping his vision. Often times leaders like Doug, who many people call a prophet... In our society, we tend to think of the leaders as these sort of charismatic, ambitious people, and I think that Doug really broke that mold, in that he was a very humble, really shy person. Q: Do you have any last minute comments or observations about him to finish up. Or a good anecdote? A: I think -- I wanted to say one thing that Doug told me many years ago. And this is really for the software developers out there. Once, this was in the 90's. And I said, Doug, Doug, I'm just started to get involved with software development, and we have this really cool tool we're working on. Do you have any advice, about ... for a young software developer. He looked at me and said: "Yes. Make sure that whatever you do is very modular. Make everything as module as possible. Because you know that some of your ideas are going to endure, and some are not. The problem is you don't know which one will, and which one won't. So you want to be able to separate the pieces so that those pieces can carry on and move forward."