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I do wonder what the line is for you and the other folks I keep hearing say this is all totally normal and how it’s always been - what would cross the line for

I do wonder what the line is for you and the other folks I keep hearing say this is all totally normal and how it’s always been - what would cross the line for you? What could Trump do that would lead you to say, “oh, this is different now?”

glitchc 2y ago
All I'm trying to point out is that your cushy middle-class existence has sheltered you from the deep-rooted inequality that has persisted in America since the turn of last century, perhaps since creation. Trump historically has been shunned by the traditional elites. From their perspective he lacks guile and class. And they're right. As a president it's no different. That's why he's surrounded himself with the nouveau elite. The old guard would not give him the time of day. I'm simply speaking to facts. Why do they bother you so much?
- jmye 2y ago
  > Why do they bother you so much? Why do you think he’s bothered, when all he’s asked is what the line is, for you? Perhaps you’d do well to not project your own emotions on other people anytime they lightly push back on things you say. The 4chan-esque “u mad bro” bullshit is so fucking tired.
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    Because you’re not going to like the answer to where the line is. The answer is the line has been crossed for decades. It was crossed when we started this nation recognizing slavery. It was continued when we kept breaking promise after promise to native Americans. It continued being crossed when we threw thousands of Asians, especially Japanese into camps. It’s been getting crossed when we’ve sat by and justified police brutality against minorities. It’s been getting crossed when we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. It’s been getting crossed when we’ve been supplying weapons to the global south knowing full well how that’s going to be used. So, realistically speaking, that line doesn’t exist anymore. And the American middle class who never backed the American poverty class when they protested this, are going to find themselves alone and without support. The whole premise of the question “when will the line be crossed” reeks of privilege and shows a fundamental lack of understanding of where we are today. Does that help clear things up?
    - jmye 2y ago
      > Because you’re not going to like the answer to where the line is. True or not, I’m not “clear” what that has to do with my post. Further, asking what the current administration would have to do to cross GP’s line has, fundamentally, nothing at all to do with this particular soapbox. It feels like you just wanted to post this, and weren’t all that concerned with where or whether it made any sense as a reply.
iJohnDoe 2y ago
I genuinely wonder about this too. I wonder what the line in the sand is for Trump supporters. The latest assault on social security should start hitting close to home for Trump supporters? Maybe the end of welfare or unemployment or disability? A lot of Trump supporters fall into this category. Which is crazy because Trump is the classic wealthy person that stands on the back of the poor or borderline poverty and they seem to love Trump.
licebmi__at__ 2y ago
I usually read it the other way around. People denouncing it has always been like this felt like the line had already been crossed; and I'm conflicted with the fact that it took a foul mouthed celebrity for so many people to realize that.

glitchc 2y ago

All I'm trying to point out is that your cushy middle-class existence has sheltered you from the deep-rooted inequality that has persisted in America since the turn of last century, perhaps since creation. Trump historically has been shunned by the traditional elites. From their perspective he lacks guile and class. And they're right. As a president it's no different. That's why he's surrounded himself with the nouveau elite. The old guard would not give him the time of day. I'm simply speaking to facts. Why do they bother you so much?

jmye 2y ago
> Why do they bother you so much? Why do you think he’s bothered, when all he’s asked is what the line is, for you? Perhaps you’d do well to not project your own emotions on other people anytime they lightly push back on things you say. The 4chan-esque “u mad bro” bullshit is so fucking tired.
- aaomidi 2y ago
  Because you’re not going to like the answer to where the line is. The answer is the line has been crossed for decades. It was crossed when we started this nation recognizing slavery. It was continued when we kept breaking promise after promise to native Americans. It continued being crossed when we threw thousands of Asians, especially Japanese into camps. It’s been getting crossed when we’ve sat by and justified police brutality against minorities. It’s been getting crossed when we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. It’s been getting crossed when we’ve been supplying weapons to the global south knowing full well how that’s going to be used. So, realistically speaking, that line doesn’t exist anymore. And the American middle class who never backed the American poverty class when they protested this, are going to find themselves alone and without support. The whole premise of the question “when will the line be crossed” reeks of privilege and shows a fundamental lack of understanding of where we are today. Does that help clear things up?
  - jmye 2y ago
    > Because you’re not going to like the answer to where the line is. True or not, I’m not “clear” what that has to do with my post. Further, asking what the current administration would have to do to cross GP’s line has, fundamentally, nothing at all to do with this particular soapbox. It feels like you just wanted to post this, and weren’t all that concerned with where or whether it made any sense as a reply.

iJohnDoe 2y ago

I genuinely wonder about this too. I wonder what the line in the sand is for Trump supporters. The latest assault on social security should start hitting close to home for Trump supporters? Maybe the end of welfare or unemployment or disability? A lot of Trump supporters fall into this category. Which is crazy because Trump is the classic wealthy person that stands on the back of the poor or borderline poverty and they seem to love Trump.

licebmi__at__ 2y ago

I usually read it the other way around. People denouncing it has always been like this felt like the line had already been crossed; and I'm conflicted with the fact that it took a foul mouthed celebrity for so many people to realize that.