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TikTok is a legitimate national security concern.

WalterGillman 2y ago
How? It might expedite intel gathering and psychological warfare to an extent but let's not pretend China doesn't have agents inside of all of the "friendly" platforms already.
- ekianjo 2y ago
  Because China can control what gets recommended to TikTok viewers and actively brainwash them. Even if it does not work on all people that's enough to be a security concern.
realusername 2y ago
In the EU, I'd rank it a lower national security threat than Twitter or Facebook, by far. And seeing what's going on in the US now, I'd maybe have the same analysis for the US.
- mikrotikker 2y ago
  But it is a threat and all of those threats should be dealt with .
  - realusername 2y ago
    All threats aren't equal. I'm more afraid of Twitter and Facebook, where there's tons of official government presence.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  China doesn't consider EU it's primary advesary/competitor either though. They have a lot more incentive to use it against the USA.
sneak 2y ago
So is Facebook and Instagram. We’re only talking about banning the foreign one. Also, by that logic, all publishing is potentially a “national security concern”.
- mikrotikker 2y ago
  Banning /foreign/ influence and propaganda? Why would a country want to do that I wonder? We should bring back RT while we're at it then eh?
  - genewitch 2y ago
    You give me your take on, quote, Trump banning voice of America, unquote?
  - Gud 2y ago
    That Facebook/whatsapp/instagram arent ‘foreign’ is an illusion. They are controlled by the same entity, the capitalist elite.
  - sneak 2y ago
    Yes. Human rights to free expression don’t end at the border, and are not contingent on citizenship. If you only believe in human rights for passport holders, you don’t believe in human rights. Furthermore, if you think your enemies having the right to publish whatever they like is a national security threat, you don’t believe in the nation or its founding principles as outlined in the US constitution. State censorship is much more of a national security threat than foreign propaganda.
  - EasyMark 2y ago
    I think a lot of people don't consider the implications of foreign powers acting against their nation, not a corporation in that country but the actual government using it's vast resources to undermine other countries.

How? It might expedite intel gathering and psychological warfare to an extent but let's not pretend China doesn't have agents inside of all of the "friendly" platforms already.

ekianjo 2y ago
Because China can control what gets recommended to TikTok viewers and actively brainwash them. Even if it does not work on all people that's enough to be a security concern.

realusername 2y ago

In the EU, I'd rank it a lower national security threat than Twitter or Facebook, by far. And seeing what's going on in the US now, I'd maybe have the same analysis for the US.

mikrotikker 2y ago
But it is a threat and all of those threats should be dealt with .
- realusername 2y ago
  All threats aren't equal. I'm more afraid of Twitter and Facebook, where there's tons of official government presence.
EasyMark 2y ago
China doesn't consider EU it's primary advesary/competitor either though. They have a lot more incentive to use it against the USA.

sneak 2y ago

So is Facebook and Instagram. We’re only talking about banning the foreign one. Also, by that logic, all publishing is potentially a “national security concern”.

mikrotikker 2y ago
Banning /foreign/ influence and propaganda? Why would a country want to do that I wonder? We should bring back RT while we're at it then eh?
- genewitch 2y ago
  You give me your take on, quote, Trump banning voice of America, unquote?
- Gud 2y ago
  That Facebook/whatsapp/instagram arent ‘foreign’ is an illusion. They are controlled by the same entity, the capitalist elite.
- sneak 2y ago
  Yes. Human rights to free expression don’t end at the border, and are not contingent on citizenship. If you only believe in human rights for passport holders, you don’t believe in human rights. Furthermore, if you think your enemies having the right to publish whatever they like is a national security threat, you don’t believe in the nation or its founding principles as outlined in the US constitution. State censorship is much more of a national security threat than foreign propaganda.
- EasyMark 2y ago
  I think a lot of people don't consider the implications of foreign powers acting against their nation, not a corporation in that country but the actual government using it's vast resources to undermine other countries.