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Well, Im still trying to work out why people are trusting storage clouds at all. Personally, and that means for me, I see no practical use and only danger. Outa

by alan_cx 14y ago

Well, Im still trying to work out why people are trusting storage clouds at all. Personally, and that means for me, I see no practical use and only danger. Outages, ownership, authority snooping, seizures, hacking, etc, etc. And then I read something here about a cloud hack being used to wipe computers, tablets and phones. (And don't give me crap about misunderstanding it, I don't need to understand it to be freaked out by the general plot as it were) All I'm told is that some how a cloud is convenient. Leaving my front door open is convenient, but also stupid. If I were to use a cloud to store files, I would treat it like my hard drive, ie, I would want to back it up. Nothing vital to me would ever sit in or on a cloud. I've seen too much go wrong to ever trust them. Overall, I just don't understand why people who have decent, cheap local storage and back up ability already, while retaining complete control, would suddenly hand all their vital data over to somewhere where you lose all control. Even if I want to get my data from elsewhere on the net, I have a cheapo Iomega drive that allows that easily. This cloud lark simply makes no sense to me at all. It just looks like another corporate data grab, which added snooping. Cloud = Kings New Clothes. I feel like the little boy.

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rimantas 14y ago
> I see no practical use and only danger. Outages, > ownership, authority snooping, seizures, hacking, > etc, etc. Yep, selection bias. Cloud is not used for anything else, just snooping and hacking. I see a practical use: I dont' care what device I am on, I always have my contacts in sync, I can now see the same tabs open, I can access my presentation which I started yesterday on MBP on my iPhone. > Nothing vital to me would ever sit in or on a cloud. Well my kidneys are not on the cloud. Neither my lungs. My contacts? Not vital at all. My presentations? Not vital at all. My music? Not vital at all. But damn is this convenient to have that stuff up there. > I've seen too much go wrong to ever trust them. Then don't. > Overall, I just don't understand why people who have decent, cheap local > storage and back up ability already, Because when I figure in my time needed to configure and maintain this decent, cheap and local storage it is not that cheap anymore. And local does not really cut it. > while retaining complete control, would suddenly hand all their vital data > over to somewhere where you lose all control. Maybe some are not control freaks? And maybe some just have some data what is not "vital", but can be kept in the cloud? Like music collection?
- jimbobimbo 14y ago
  Speaking of music collection - for the past week I'm trying to download two albums that I bought, off of Amazon's Cloud Player. Apparently, their own MP3 Downloaded is horribly broken on Windows 7 (given that screenshots on their support page show Windows XP in 2012, I'm not that surprised). Makes me wonder if I ever want to keep anything up there, if I can't get it out. Woz is right on the money - anything we put in the cloud make us be on the mercy of provider's business plan, reliability and plain quality of QA processes.
  - tjr 14y ago
    Store fluffy cloud-like stuff in the cloud. I couldn't care any less if my Facebook posts or Twitter updates were wiped off the face of the earth. I would care if my email archives, photographs, music collection, etc., were destroyed, but with varying degrees of concern. For example, I'll often buy individual music tracks from iTunes, but if I know I want a whole album, I buy a physical CD. I might only use the CD once to rip it to my computer, but I have an automatic backup that, so far, seems pretty robust, as I still have working CDs that I bought in the mid-1990's... which is more than I can say for my email archives!
    - jimbobimbo 14y ago
      Re CDs - that's precisely why I'm trying to download albums that I bought from Amazon. I feel much safer when I have access to my media locally, on my terms, with software I choose.
  - j_s 14y ago
    My anecdote: I bought two albums as one-click purchases from Amazon and downloaded them to my phone before they realized my credit card info was no longer valid. I was too scared not to buy them again!
    - jimbobimbo 14y ago
      The fun part is that I bought another album few months ago and two minor versions of their MP3 Downloader earlier, and it worked for me just fine.

by alan_cx 14y ago

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rimantas 14y ago

> I see no practical use and only danger. Outages, > ownership, authority snooping, seizures, hacking, > etc, etc. Yep, selection bias. Cloud is not used for anything else, just snooping and hacking. I see a practical use: I dont' care what device I am on, I always have my contacts in sync, I can now see the same tabs open, I can access my presentation which I started yesterday on MBP on my iPhone. > Nothing vital to me would ever sit in or on a cloud. Well my kidneys are not on the cloud. Neither my lungs. My contacts? Not vital at all. My presentations? Not vital at all. My music? Not vital at all. But damn is this convenient to have that stuff up there. > I've seen too much go wrong to ever trust them. Then don't. > Overall, I just don't understand why people who have decent, cheap local > storage and back up ability already, Because when I figure in my time needed to configure and maintain this decent, cheap and local storage it is not that cheap anymore. And local does not really cut it. > while retaining complete control, would suddenly hand all their vital data > over to somewhere where you lose all control. Maybe some are not control freaks? And maybe some just have some data what is not "vital", but can be kept in the cloud? Like music collection?

jimbobimbo 14y ago
Speaking of music collection - for the past week I'm trying to download two albums that I bought, off of Amazon's Cloud Player. Apparently, their own MP3 Downloaded is horribly broken on Windows 7 (given that screenshots on their support page show Windows XP in 2012, I'm not that surprised). Makes me wonder if I ever want to keep anything up there, if I can't get it out. Woz is right on the money - anything we put in the cloud make us be on the mercy of provider's business plan, reliability and plain quality of QA processes.
- tjr 14y ago
  Store fluffy cloud-like stuff in the cloud. I couldn't care any less if my Facebook posts or Twitter updates were wiped off the face of the earth. I would care if my email archives, photographs, music collection, etc., were destroyed, but with varying degrees of concern. For example, I'll often buy individual music tracks from iTunes, but if I know I want a whole album, I buy a physical CD. I might only use the CD once to rip it to my computer, but I have an automatic backup that, so far, seems pretty robust, as I still have working CDs that I bought in the mid-1990's... which is more than I can say for my email archives!
  - jimbobimbo 14y ago
    Re CDs - that's precisely why I'm trying to download albums that I bought from Amazon. I feel much safer when I have access to my media locally, on my terms, with software I choose.
- j_s 14y ago
  My anecdote: I bought two albums as one-click purchases from Amazon and downloaded them to my phone before they realized my credit card info was no longer valid. I was too scared not to buy them again!
  - jimbobimbo 14y ago
    The fun part is that I bought another album few months ago and two minor versions of their MP3 Downloader earlier, and it worked for me just fine.