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Vercel’s reputation is so cooked. Jeez.
by butterlettuce 2y ago
Vercel’s reputation is so cooked. Jeez.
- ilrwbwrkhv 2y agoI mean their whole product is geared towards bad developers. And I don't say that loosely. I literally mean bad developers. Developers who do not understand what a product is and how learning something slightly more difficult such as servers and things of that nature that actually can make for a better product.
- ronbenton 2y agoMy biggest concern about these so-called “isomorphic frameworks” is they’re trying to abstract away the server/client distinction. I don’t see how that doesn’t result in tons of security bugs. Or maybe I’m just an old fart.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoWhat product alternative to Nextjs would you say is targeted towards "good developers"?
- apsurd 2y agoseems pretty reasonable to me. it's not that it's 100% accurate. it's that anything that has higher barrier to entry automatically acts as a filter. complied languages, esoteric languages, i mean it's pretty reasonable. you have to go out of your way to learn more stuff and there's more pain. ergo: you're probably "better" than a script kiddie that "vibe coded" a boilerplate saas to launch their influencer passive income side hustle
- slowtrek 2y agoThere's no marketable benefit to using Mootools to build web apps at the moment.
- _m_p 2y agohttps://www.phoenixframework.org/ https://www.phoenixframework.org/
- owebmaster 2y agonextjs is in a class of software that should not exists (backend-for-frontend). You can have an SPA and an API in any backend language/framework.
- junto 2y agoAgreed. A SPA without some backend for front end is always going to push you to store authentication tokens in local storage. It feels like a shortcoming in browsers that we need a BFF to resort to cookies that JS can’t access. I like React, but I feel that we primarily use Next.js just for session cookie management.
- tacker2000 2y agoJust a simple PHP backend (Laravel or symfony) with React or Vue as the frontend is probably less headache and less costly than this Next.js montrosity. In a recent project i used Inertia as a layer to communicate between Laravel and React and I must say, its a breeze. No more frontend API endpoints needed.
- blovescoffee 2y agoWhy do you assume people who choose Next don’t understand those things or what they are? Is it so hard to imagine someone understands “servers and things of that nature” and still chooses next?
- jsheard 2y agoThis recent post by their CEO is funny in hindsight: https://xcancel.com/rauchg/status/1901786957149032869 https://xcancel.com/rauchg/status/1901786957149032869 Hypes up AI coding, hypes up AI for security in particular, then immediately faceplants onto a critical auth bypass.