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What do you mean what law? See the court case, they've issued it and so they can either pay it or see what Italy wants to do about it If you get a speeding tic

by Aachen 2y ago

What do you mean what law? See the court case, they've issued it and so they can either pay it or see what Italy wants to do about it If you get a speeding ticket in North Korea and fly off before it arrives at the car rental, you can ask what law the rental is going to use to get the money from you abroad. You can not pay and choose to never visit the country again. In Cloudflare's case, however, they probably want to continue doing business in that market so just fleeing with the money is not likely the most profitable option for them There's tons of international cases if you want to know more. It's also a common (to the point of trite) discussion point about GDPR saying it applies globally. Obviously it doesn't unless the non-treaty country lets an EU/EEA country enforce it (I am not aware that this ever happened) if the fined party does not care to continue doing business in the EEA

amiga386 2y ago
I'm not sure North Korea is a place you'd make a car rental, but this is now 99% of car rentals work: 1. You agree up-front in the contract with the car rental company that you will pay for all fines, parking tickets, etc. you might incur during the rental. You agree ahead of time the rental company won't waste any money defending you, arguing you didn't do it, and will instead pay the whole fine immediately and pass it on to you, and payment will be automatically taken. You always agree this because otherwise they just don't rent the car to you. 2. You incur a fine. 3. The authorities fine the owner of the vehicle, which is the rental company. 4. The rental company immediately bills you for the fine, converted to the currency you paid them in, using your payment details, and they add an extra administrative fee as well. 5. The rental company pays themselves and the fine-issuing authority with your money.
- williamscales 2y ago
  Indeed this is how it generally works with rentals. GP’s situation can just be reframed as “you get a ticket handed to you for [any small infraction] and leave the country without paying”.
- vault 2y ago
  > The rental company immediately bills you for the fine ...just to find out the card is blocked :)
  - amiga386 2y ago
    You can get away with that once, but the downside is you can't rent a car again (from that company, and possibly other companies if they share information about fraudsters with each other)
    - Aachen 2y ago
      Which was exactly the point being talked about

by Aachen 2y ago

amiga386 2y ago

I'm not sure North Korea is a place you'd make a car rental, but this is now 99% of car rentals work: 1. You agree up-front in the contract with the car rental company that you will pay for all fines, parking tickets, etc. you might incur during the rental. You agree ahead of time the rental company won't waste any money defending you, arguing you didn't do it, and will instead pay the whole fine immediately and pass it on to you, and payment will be automatically taken. You always agree this because otherwise they just don't rent the car to you. 2. You incur a fine. 3. The authorities fine the owner of the vehicle, which is the rental company. 4. The rental company immediately bills you for the fine, converted to the currency you paid them in, using your payment details, and they add an extra administrative fee as well. 5. The rental company pays themselves and the fine-issuing authority with your money.

williamscales 2y ago
Indeed this is how it generally works with rentals. GP’s situation can just be reframed as “you get a ticket handed to you for [any small infraction] and leave the country without paying”.
vault 2y ago
> The rental company immediately bills you for the fine ...just to find out the card is blocked :)
- amiga386 2y ago
  You can get away with that once, but the downside is you can't rent a car again (from that company, and possibly other companies if they share information about fraudsters with each other)
  - Aachen 2y ago
    Which was exactly the point being talked about