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That has been touted around before, but what does the military do? I assume they are extremely aware of their supply chain and would not want to source weather

That has been touted around before, but what does the military do? I assume they are extremely aware of their supply chain and would not want to source weather from a commercial entity. Will NORAD start doing clandestine weather modelling to be able to plan troop/ship movements?

msy 2y ago
They’re briefing Elon Musk on China war plans, I don’t think the current leadership will care much where they source weather data as long as it aligns with the current ideological purity purge.
- techright75 2y ago
  There's no proof he was part of any briefing, and pretty much everyone has denied this has happened. You need to diversify your news sources beyond the ones that confirm your beliefs, truthful or not.
  - reaperducer 2y ago
    There's no proof he was part of any briefing I guess you missed the video of him going into the Pentagon, and then coming out saying he had a great meeting. It was all over the "legacy" media that the current legacy president doesn't watch or obsess over.
    - zdragnar 2y ago
      Right, there's only one meeting room at the Pentagon.
      - weakfish 2y ago
        Should he be in _any_ pentagon meetings? I mean, the admin is trying to deny he has any official role beyond advisor, and he’s not US born.
        Auracle 2y ago
        So someone that was, say, hired to make a website for the Pentagon can’t go and have a meeting there? Especially if they’re foreign born?
        JSteph22 2y ago
        Given how game changing Starlink has proven to be for military operations, he probably should.
  - msy 2y ago
    If you genuinely believe the real problem here is reporting, not that it's unclear (and had to be denied by the President himself) whether a private citizen with massive and well documented conflicts of interest and who doesn't hold a TS clearance was briefed on some of the nations most sensitive military planning I'd suggest I'm not the one with an information consumption and evaluation issue.
__egb__ 2y ago
The Navy already does forecasting for the DoD. They have their own computing facility (called Fleet Numerical) in California and run their own models.
- tomjakubowski 2y ago
  Curious if they use NWS weather station data or if they collect their own.
  - jandrewrogers 2y ago
    It is pretty much an independent system. There are only a handful of organizations on the planet operating an independent global weather model. For historical reasons the US operates two of them. A good argument can be made that the European model is better than either, so it might make sense for the US to combine some of those global weather model resources.
    - mistrial9 2y ago
      unless "all private except certain secure friends" is not in the spirit of US Federal Science?
- mistrial9 2y ago
  Isn't it true that open methods beat closed expensive methods many times.. in the case of weather prediction, it is trivial to benchmark predictions.
- alfiedotwtf 2y ago
  For how long? Like seriously, how long until that department/company/office is shut down
dataviz1000 2y ago
I was a private yacht chef for 6 years. I would always source weather from https://www.metoc.navy.mil/ https://www.metoc.navy.mil/ and plan meals around it. I'm pretty good with a Japanese chef's knife in 8 foot seas.
- hallway_monitor 2y ago
  His cuts on dry land: ~~~
  - genewitch 2y ago
    Some Mel Brooks level humor here
myko 2y ago
Air Force / Space Force already employ meteorologists for their own stuff, I'm sure the US military will have accurate information. It just will not get to the public until it has been properly sharpied.

msy 2y ago

They’re briefing Elon Musk on China war plans, I don’t think the current leadership will care much where they source weather data as long as it aligns with the current ideological purity purge.

techright75 2y ago
There's no proof he was part of any briefing, and pretty much everyone has denied this has happened. You need to diversify your news sources beyond the ones that confirm your beliefs, truthful or not.
- reaperducer 2y ago
  There's no proof he was part of any briefing I guess you missed the video of him going into the Pentagon, and then coming out saying he had a great meeting. It was all over the "legacy" media that the current legacy president doesn't watch or obsess over.
  - zdragnar 2y ago
    Right, there's only one meeting room at the Pentagon.
    - weakfish 2y ago
      Should he be in _any_ pentagon meetings? I mean, the admin is trying to deny he has any official role beyond advisor, and he’s not US born.
      - Auracle 2y ago
        So someone that was, say, hired to make a website for the Pentagon can’t go and have a meeting there? Especially if they’re foreign born?
      - JSteph22 2y ago
        Given how game changing Starlink has proven to be for military operations, he probably should.
- msy 2y ago
  If you genuinely believe the real problem here is reporting, not that it's unclear (and had to be denied by the President himself) whether a private citizen with massive and well documented conflicts of interest and who doesn't hold a TS clearance was briefed on some of the nations most sensitive military planning I'd suggest I'm not the one with an information consumption and evaluation issue.

__egb__ 2y ago

The Navy already does forecasting for the DoD. They have their own computing facility (called Fleet Numerical) in California and run their own models.

tomjakubowski 2y ago
Curious if they use NWS weather station data or if they collect their own.
- jandrewrogers 2y ago
  It is pretty much an independent system. There are only a handful of organizations on the planet operating an independent global weather model. For historical reasons the US operates two of them. A good argument can be made that the European model is better than either, so it might make sense for the US to combine some of those global weather model resources.
  - mistrial9 2y ago
    unless "all private except certain secure friends" is not in the spirit of US Federal Science?
mistrial9 2y ago
Isn't it true that open methods beat closed expensive methods many times.. in the case of weather prediction, it is trivial to benchmark predictions.
alfiedotwtf 2y ago
For how long? Like seriously, how long until that department/company/office is shut down

dataviz1000 2y ago

I was a private yacht chef for 6 years. I would always source weather from https://www.metoc.navy.mil/ https://www.metoc.navy.mil/ and plan meals around it. I'm pretty good with a Japanese chef's knife in 8 foot seas.

hallway_monitor 2y ago
His cuts on dry land: ~~~
- genewitch 2y ago
  Some Mel Brooks level humor here

myko 2y ago

Air Force / Space Force already employ meteorologists for their own stuff, I'm sure the US military will have accurate information. It just will not get to the public until it has been properly sharpied.