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Because it's collective punishment. Why should I have to put up with inferior bottle caps that get in the way and are more prone to leaking than traditional bot

by mrob 2y ago

Because it's collective punishment. Why should I have to put up with inferior bottle caps that get in the way and are more prone to leaking than traditional bottle caps just because some other people misused them? The correct solution is enforcing anti-littering laws.

perching_aix 2y ago
I'm all for a stronger enforcement of anti-littering laws, but I'm just as stumped about how exactly would that be implemented, what exactly would need to change, and how much would those changes cost compared to just requiring companies to make the caps be this way. As for the "collective punishment", while I can definitely appreciate that some of the new caps can be fussy to use, I'd hope you can also appreciate that calling them a "punishment" is very much a subjective characterization, and that opinions do vary. I can't stand the cap on the cocoa milk cartons I buy, but the ones on the regular cow milk cartons are excellent, and work way better than what was on them before. I also generally think that the caps that are fussy to use are a nuisance at best, and that since there have been caps that annoyed me even before this change in legislation, there's no reasonable cause for me to be upset at this specifically.
- AustinDev 2y ago
  I don't know. I was in Switzerland once and saw someone litter in a park near a bunch of school children on some sort of field trip. The police were interrogating the individual within ~5 minutes. It seems like it's possible in certain places in Europe and it's certainly possible in Singapore.
mtlmtlmtlmtl 2y ago
How do you suggest we enforce anti-littering laws?
- mrob 2y ago
  I've heard that Singapore manages to do it. Copy whatever they do. It doesn't need to be 100% effective, because it's easy to rip the caps off the new bottles making them not 100% effective either.
- sergiotapia 2y ago
  cane people you find littering, like they do in Singapore.
  - _t9ow 2y ago
    This is not true. You will not get caned for littering in Singapore. You might get a fine, or be sentenced to clean a public area while wearing a bright uniform (so that everyone can see that you're being punished). See: https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-increases-visibility-of-corrective-work-order-sessions https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-increases-v...

by mrob 2y ago

perching_aix 2y ago

I'm all for a stronger enforcement of anti-littering laws, but I'm just as stumped about how exactly would that be implemented, what exactly would need to change, and how much would those changes cost compared to just requiring companies to make the caps be this way. As for the "collective punishment", while I can definitely appreciate that some of the new caps can be fussy to use, I'd hope you can also appreciate that calling them a "punishment" is very much a subjective characterization, and that opinions do vary. I can't stand the cap on the cocoa milk cartons I buy, but the ones on the regular cow milk cartons are excellent, and work way better than what was on them before. I also generally think that the caps that are fussy to use are a nuisance at best, and that since there have been caps that annoyed me even before this change in legislation, there's no reasonable cause for me to be upset at this specifically.

AustinDev 2y ago
I don't know. I was in Switzerland once and saw someone litter in a park near a bunch of school children on some sort of field trip. The police were interrogating the individual within ~5 minutes. It seems like it's possible in certain places in Europe and it's certainly possible in Singapore.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 2y ago

How do you suggest we enforce anti-littering laws?

mrob 2y ago
I've heard that Singapore manages to do it. Copy whatever they do. It doesn't need to be 100% effective, because it's easy to rip the caps off the new bottles making them not 100% effective either.
sergiotapia 2y ago
cane people you find littering, like they do in Singapore.
- _t9ow 2y ago
  This is not true. You will not get caned for littering in Singapore. You might get a fine, or be sentenced to clean a public area while wearing a bright uniform (so that everyone can see that you're being punished). See: https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-increases-visibility-of-corrective-work-order-sessions https://www.nea.gov.sg/media/news/news/index/nea-increases-v...