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I agree with everything else, but this narrative seems correct, but misleading. >This comes after Tesla’s stock dropped more than 40% so far this year Tesla h

by nabla9 2y ago

I agree with everything else, but this narrative seems correct, but misleading. >This comes after Tesla’s stock dropped more than 40% so far this year Tesla had huge spike lasting just few months that coincided with Trump's win. TSLA is back in the same level it has been circling since 2020 (last five years). That said, it's truly amazing feat of belief that P/E is 120 while there are no other prospects for fast growth except constant talk about pivot to something else. First it was automated robot factories, then self-driving, then it was "energy company", solar panels, then humanoid robots, some crypto, then AI, .. Are there professional investors somewhere who have been eating this stuff for 15 years straight, or do they rotate in and out?

s1artibartfast 2y ago
I wouldn't assume much stock is held by professional investors making value bets.
acdha 2y ago
Professional do make mistakes overvaluing tech sales pitches they don’t understand but I imagine most of them understood Tesla’s meme-stock transition half a decade ago and are quite happy betting that they’ll get rich unloading before retail investors run for the exits.
- nabla9 2y ago
  Relatively recent data of TSLA ownership.https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/tsla/ownership# https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/tsla/ownership# 20.58% Insiders 14.49% Mutual Funds 10.65% Other Institutional Investors 19.14% ETFs 35.14% Public Companies and Individual Investors Retail ownership share has been over 40% in the past. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-price-decline-retail-investors-tsla-insider-sales-jpmorgan-2025-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-price-decline-re... > Data from JPMorgan shows that net retail buying of the stock was positive for 12 consecutive days, totaling $7.3 billion. >"While this is not the longest consecutive streak of Retail buying in TSLA, it is the highest magnitude among all past 'buying streaks' in over a decade," Emma Wu, a strategist at JPMorgan said in a note on Wednesday.
wqaatwt 2y ago
Tesla did have pretty massive growth over the last few years. Now that’s all over. Even their last quarter was quite awful and it’s going to be downhill in the foreseeable future (losing Europe as a market alone is going to hurt and make any revenue growth near impossible).

by nabla9 2y ago

s1artibartfast 2y ago

I wouldn't assume much stock is held by professional investors making value bets.

acdha 2y ago

Professional do make mistakes overvaluing tech sales pitches they don’t understand but I imagine most of them understood Tesla’s meme-stock transition half a decade ago and are quite happy betting that they’ll get rich unloading before retail investors run for the exits.

nabla9 2y ago
Relatively recent data of TSLA ownership.https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/tsla/ownership# https://www.tipranks.com/stocks/tsla/ownership# 20.58% Insiders 14.49% Mutual Funds 10.65% Other Institutional Investors 19.14% ETFs 35.14% Public Companies and Individual Investors Retail ownership share has been over 40% in the past. https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-price-decline-retail-investors-tsla-insider-sales-jpmorgan-2025-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-price-decline-re... > Data from JPMorgan shows that net retail buying of the stock was positive for 12 consecutive days, totaling $7.3 billion. >"While this is not the longest consecutive streak of Retail buying in TSLA, it is the highest magnitude among all past 'buying streaks' in over a decade," Emma Wu, a strategist at JPMorgan said in a note on Wednesday.

wqaatwt 2y ago

Tesla did have pretty massive growth over the last few years. Now that’s all over. Even their last quarter was quite awful and it’s going to be downhill in the foreseeable future (losing Europe as a market alone is going to hurt and make any revenue growth near impossible).