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Musk's X suspends opposition accounts in Turkey amid civil unrest

33 points by boramalper 2y ago

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lawn 2y ago
Are people still touring the "ultimate free speech" narrative, or have we moved on to the next talking point?
- watwut 2y ago
  I have seen someone claim speech just became more free, so yep, still.
- throwawayqqq11 2y ago
  The cultists cannot fathom their own contradictions. Like trump rallying to deport mexicans who are drug or violent criminals and then deporting those whos only crime was to enter the US illegally. No questions asked if those are heavy criminal thugs or law abiding family members. No courts involved to clarify.
  - krapp 2y ago
    It isn't a contradiction, it's simple racism. There is a reason Trump wanted to wall off the entire southern border because Mexico was sending "drug dealers, killers and rapists" but he wants to annex Canada and Greenland.
s1artibartfast 2y ago
...Following legal orders from Turkish judges. Just like it does in the US and EU. Do we like it when people defy court orders or not today? I cant keep track.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Following legal orders from Turkish judges. Just like it does in the US and EU Musk is notorious for blowing off court orders he doesn’t like. Particularly in America. When he complies, he does so begrudgingly and while levying threats. So yeah, it is notable that he quietly complies with a Turkish court order while yapping about free speech.
  - s1artibartfast 2y ago
    Do you have a list of US judicial take down requests that Twitter has flat out defied? I know that agency request actions aren't consistent, but dont know of examples telling a judges to stuff it.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      Nope. But the list of court orders Musk has ignored are vast. The hypocrisy is being aimed at the man—he doesn’t get a fresh start on criminal contempt with a new LLC.
      - s1artibartfast 2y ago
        What US court orders do you have in mind and can you articulate the hypocrisy. If I recall correctly, tesla defied some covid orders, but that is a pretty different situation.
        JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        Musk’s actions around USAID have been halted by courts [1]. The actions persist. Meanwhile, Musk calls—as a member of the executive branch—for impeaching judges who disagree with him. [1] https://www.wmar2news.com/local/maryland-judge-says-elon-musk-doges-actions-at-usaid-violate-constitution https://www.wmar2news.com/local/maryland-judge-says-elon-mus...
        2y ago
rapnie 2y ago
Whatever you think of Musk or where your political leanings are, this move is so anti-democratic and a clear abuse of power by means of this social network, that it should now be painfully clear to any legitimate company, government or institution that still has an account there, that it is time to move to alternative social media channels entirely. If there was any shred left in the first place, X now lost all its credibility and reputation. Move away, people.

33 points by boramalper 2y ago

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lawn 2y ago

Are people still touring the "ultimate free speech" narrative, or have we moved on to the next talking point?

watwut 2y ago
I have seen someone claim speech just became more free, so yep, still.
throwawayqqq11 2y ago
The cultists cannot fathom their own contradictions. Like trump rallying to deport mexicans who are drug or violent criminals and then deporting those whos only crime was to enter the US illegally. No questions asked if those are heavy criminal thugs or law abiding family members. No courts involved to clarify.
- krapp 2y ago
  It isn't a contradiction, it's simple racism. There is a reason Trump wanted to wall off the entire southern border because Mexico was sending "drug dealers, killers and rapists" but he wants to annex Canada and Greenland.

s1artibartfast 2y ago

...Following legal orders from Turkish judges. Just like it does in the US and EU. Do we like it when people defy court orders or not today? I cant keep track.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Following legal orders from Turkish judges. Just like it does in the US and EU Musk is notorious for blowing off court orders he doesn’t like. Particularly in America. When he complies, he does so begrudgingly and while levying threats. So yeah, it is notable that he quietly complies with a Turkish court order while yapping about free speech.
- s1artibartfast 2y ago
  Do you have a list of US judicial take down requests that Twitter has flat out defied? I know that agency request actions aren't consistent, but dont know of examples telling a judges to stuff it.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    Nope. But the list of court orders Musk has ignored are vast. The hypocrisy is being aimed at the man—he doesn’t get a fresh start on criminal contempt with a new LLC.
    - s1artibartfast 2y ago
      What US court orders do you have in mind and can you articulate the hypocrisy. If I recall correctly, tesla defied some covid orders, but that is a pretty different situation.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        Musk’s actions around USAID have been halted by courts [1]. The actions persist. Meanwhile, Musk calls—as a member of the executive branch—for impeaching judges who disagree with him. [1] https://www.wmar2news.com/local/maryland-judge-says-elon-musk-doges-actions-at-usaid-violate-constitution https://www.wmar2news.com/local/maryland-judge-says-elon-mus...
        2y ago

rapnie 2y ago

Whatever you think of Musk or where your political leanings are, this move is so anti-democratic and a clear abuse of power by means of this social network, that it should now be painfully clear to any legitimate company, government or institution that still has an account there, that it is time to move to alternative social media channels entirely. If there was any shred left in the first place, X now lost all its credibility and reputation. Move away, people.