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It kinda doesn’t matter; Individuals aren’t making foreign policy decisions day-by-day, Republicans leaders are. Until we effect change in our government, we ar

It kinda doesn’t matter; Individuals aren’t making foreign policy decisions day-by-day, Republicans leaders are. Until we effect change in our government, we are hostile to most of our allies.

noduerme 2y ago
It matters to me, as a person who travels frequently, that people in the countries I visit don't believe that Americans writ large voted for the foreign policy we see being enacted. Even among the ones who voted for Trump, there seems to be a lot of shock at the aggressive posture toward our allies. I think it's important to convey that a majority of Americans are not on board with this 180 degree turn in our position toward Europe. But yes... individuals don't make foreign policy, and we are subject to the whims of our polity. That's exactly what I'm asking the parent poster to take into account.
- imoverclocked 2y ago
  It matters to me too. However, it still doesn’t negate the fact that we are hostile. There is always good news and bad news in the world. Our judicial branch is (so far) working to reverse illegal moves by the executive branch. People are protesting across the US and across the world. Our allies are currently putting pressure on us that is reversible. The bad news is that our country is losing trust every day. We voted this person into office twice. We are deporting people for voiced opposition to the regime. There are now travel warnings to the US from multiple countries. Ironically, it’s now harder to leave the US. MAGA is trying to spread into other countries given the foothold it has gained here. There isn’t a lot of comfort to give when the guy who holds the nations nuclear codes is questionably coherent and actively hostile.
- Braxton1980 2y ago
  >Even among the ones who voted for Trump, there seems to be a lot of shock at the aggressive posture toward our allies. Source?
palata 2y ago
> we are hostile to most of our allies One bad news (for everybody) is that I believe a lot of citizen of those "allied" countries don't see the US as allies anymore. The US are now seen as this unstable "partner" that threatens becoming an enemy (e.g. by invading those ex-allies militarily) and may well become an enemy. And the feeling is getting worse everyday.

It kinda doesn’t matter; Individuals aren’t making foreign policy decisions day-by-day, Republicans leaders are. Until we effect change in our government, we are hostile to most of our allies.

noduerme 2y ago

It matters to me, as a person who travels frequently, that people in the countries I visit don't believe that Americans writ large voted for the foreign policy we see being enacted. Even among the ones who voted for Trump, there seems to be a lot of shock at the aggressive posture toward our allies. I think it's important to convey that a majority of Americans are not on board with this 180 degree turn in our position toward Europe. But yes... individuals don't make foreign policy, and we are subject to the whims of our polity. That's exactly what I'm asking the parent poster to take into account.

imoverclocked 2y ago
It matters to me too. However, it still doesn’t negate the fact that we are hostile. There is always good news and bad news in the world. Our judicial branch is (so far) working to reverse illegal moves by the executive branch. People are protesting across the US and across the world. Our allies are currently putting pressure on us that is reversible. The bad news is that our country is losing trust every day. We voted this person into office twice. We are deporting people for voiced opposition to the regime. There are now travel warnings to the US from multiple countries. Ironically, it’s now harder to leave the US. MAGA is trying to spread into other countries given the foothold it has gained here. There isn’t a lot of comfort to give when the guy who holds the nations nuclear codes is questionably coherent and actively hostile.
Braxton1980 2y ago
>Even among the ones who voted for Trump, there seems to be a lot of shock at the aggressive posture toward our allies. Source?

palata 2y ago

> we are hostile to most of our allies One bad news (for everybody) is that I believe a lot of citizen of those "allied" countries don't see the US as allies anymore. The US are now seen as this unstable "partner" that threatens becoming an enemy (e.g. by invading those ex-allies militarily) and may well become an enemy. And the feeling is getting worse everyday.