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I had no idea Monster sold anything other than over priced guitar cables... About 15 yeard ago, I knew a guy who exclusively bought Monster... well he had two o
by jaredandrews 2y ago
I had no idea Monster sold anything other than over priced guitar cables... About 15 yeard ago, I knew a guy who exclusively bought Monster... well he had two of them, one from the guitar to the pedal board and another from the board to the amp.
But it wasn't because of their alleged improved sound quality or whatever, it was because they had a lifetime warranty. Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times.
From what I can tell they got rid of the lifetime warranty around 2018 and have mostly transitioned to licensing their name.
- brendoelfrendo 2y agoI definitely got upsold on a Monster cable when I bought my first guitar on the back of that lifetime warranty. Joke's on me, I guess; the cable is almost 20 years old and still working, never had to use the warranty even once. I need to take worse care of my things.
- metalman 2y agoGuitar cable?, ya...noooo cordless my droogys prolly cheaper too did a custom stealth mod to one guitar where the transmitter, plugs into 1/4 jack,under the back cover nice thing is that its possible to turn an amp up to face peeling loudness, and step back, and not get hurt, got to watch for things vibrating off of shelves though and are you kidding me?, I know that as a guitarer there are cumulative cognitive effects, but when a fucking speaker cable outfit starts suing people, something has definitly gone off the rails but oh ya, there are people in jail for "cheating" on video games, but somehow there are government weed stores tone is in the hands
- bayindirh 2y agoI prefer a cable in my active bass, because it's one less set of batteries to think about, and that guy has a pretty hot output. Analog distortion is way better than the sounds you get when you saturate a digital signal path, heh.
- Frederation 2y agoSome dressing to go with that salad, man?
- metalman 2y agoshredding some words, but maybe I should join the chorus and try a little echo ;) mang
- intrasight 2y agoMy bass cable is a Monster Cable and is ~45 years old. Bought it when I was 15.
- Cornbilly 2y agoA few of my friends did the same. They could easily run to Guitar Center and swap broken cables before a gig. That could easily be worth the added cost.
- devilbunny 2y agoIt’s why Snap-On sells so many tools. They will send someone to you with the new tool if one breaks.
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- bayindirh 2y agoI hove some Monster cables around, and I bought them knowing that their claims are bogus, but the things are built like a tank. None of them have broken or developed faulty connections over the years, and that's worth it the price difference in my opinion. In my case, for a couple of them, the price difference was nil, because the store was selling them at a 50% discount to just get them out of their premises.
- neuralRiot 2y agoSwitchcraft + Belden or Canare and you’ll have cables to pass to your grandchildren.
- ericwood 2y agoI've had a 20' monster cable for at least 15 years now that is showing no signs of slowing down, even after a period of regular practice/shows. If only I was actually able to cash in on the warranty! Other cables from reputable brands haven't lasted this long in less demanding conditions.
- kimixa 2y agoWe used them at a student union for a similar reason - lots of students thinking they're a rock star swinging mics around and stuff meant we ended up with a lot of damage. Though IMHO the monster cables didn't actually take the damage any better than real "professional-tier" brands, that "no questions" replacement policy was used heavily by us.
- alexjplant 2y ago> Dude had bought two monster 1/4inch cables and gotten them replaced "for free" like 5 times. Every time I've had a cable fail it was at one of the solder joints on the connector. Stripping it down and re-soldering takes a few minutes, sure, but it saves you from having to drive to a music shop or pay for shipping. For this reason I try to only buy cables that are built to let you do this instead of ones with closed, molded ends.
- kulahan 2y agoBack before monoprice was bought by a Chinese company, I had one of their HDMI cables, and yeah - the connector just slipped right off. Buncha thin gold wires sticking out. I contacted them. They asked for a photo, which I was able to text them directly from my phone (very advanced for 2009). He looked at it, said it was their fault, and to toss it. Another was shipped to me. I have a Logitech mouse that’s double clicking. One of the 10 (!!!) steps I was supposed to do before they’d accept that it’s broken was to go to a website and click 100 (!!!!!) times. I sincerely miss the companies that were totally dedicated to customer service.
- callc 2y ago> go to a website and click 100 (!!!!!) times. Captchas are craaaaazy nowadays /s
- nnf 2y agoI have this problem with my Logitech mice too. They work great for two or three years, and then they start registering about one in every 50 clicks or so as double clicks, with the frequency slowly increasing to maybe 1 in 10.
- Our_Benefactors 2y agoThat and the infinite-scroll wheel bearing fails. I’ve probably gone through 5-10 g502 mice in the past decade. I usually buy them 2-3 at a time when they are on sale.
- MisterTea 2y ago> I had no idea Monster sold anything other than over priced guitar cables... Basically, someone asked themselves "how do I port the audiophile scam to the home entertainment space?" And monster cables was born. When Monster first came out it became a meme. Their advertisement was laughable and remember joking with tech savvy friends about how all wire was vastly inferior to the alien technology monster used in their oxygen free high purity copper that "allows more music to flow" (actual quote from their shitty packaging.) They sold cables for everything AV and then invaded the musician space with their trash. Overly aggressive salesmen in electronics stores would push them on every sale. It was tiring. Buying a little TV for the kitchen? "Dont forget the monster HDMI cable and monster coax cable to hook up the cable box! oh and the monster surge strip that purifies the electron essence before the harmonic protuberances make it into your music!" Sure thing chief, lemme spend a hundred bucks on five bucks worth of cable. No wonder they turned into a meme and a lot of people hated them. But there's always a sucker who loves showing off his $80 cables to another sucker.
- chrisdhoover 2y agoIf you travel back im time you’ll find audio connectors corroded. It was standard practice to use an eraser to polish the jacks. Monster offered gold plated connectors. It really made difference. Any benefits beyond non corrosive is questionable.
- remcob 2y agoAnd now they sell gold-plated optical connectors.
- egberts1 2y agoAnd it so totally rugged against tarnished contacts, unlike copper or brass contact. Would recommend.
- chipotle_coyote 2y agoBack in the day, Radio Shack offered gold plated connectors on their cables, too (IIRC, there was "Archer" and "Archer Gold"). To this day I always get a little prickly at people who sneer at audiophile cables and specifically rag on gold-plated connectors rather than, I don't know, oxygen-free silver cables or whatever. The gold plating was actually a real valuable thing, and the cables could still actually be pretty cheap (e.g., Radio Shack!). I actually did have Monster-brand speaker cable many years ago, but it was the original version with no connectors, just a bare spool. I don't remember it being much more expensive than any other 12-gauge speaker wire at the time, and it was both more flexible than some other brands and prettier when exposed -- which is arguably a selling point. I still have a segment of that original cable, actually, and use it for my center channel. Somewhat amusingly given the actual linked article, the rest of the cable I have is from Blue Jeans.
- gist 2y ago> I had no idea Monster sold anything other than over priced guitar cables.. Overpriced because you are envious of their marketing or pricing strategy? They were appropriately priced as long as the marketing wasn't more deceptive than products are generally (and noting it's not a food product or medical claim). > But it wasn't because of their alleged improved sound quality or whatever, it was because they had a lifetime warranty. Isn't that (along with branding) a valid reason to price a product at a certain level?
- otherme123 2y agoAnyone can make a top quality cable in 10 minutes: buy 2 Neutrik connectors, buy as many Cordial cable as you need, four solderings and you have a top guitar cable for life, for maybe 1/4 of the price of a similar Monster. Don't like to solder? Cordial has also cables with Neutrik connectors ready to use, for half the price of a Monster.
- __float 2y agoThe lifetime warranty clearly was valuable to many people here. The problem though, is the _misleading_ marketing around "better sound" and similar that is false and does not justify charging more to basic home consumers who don't know any better.
- saghm 2y agoYeah, back when I first started playing bass (which would have been around 2008, interestingly enough) I used their cables for a bit because of the unlimited replacements. As a young teen without any income, it honestly was a pretty decent deal; in retrospect, the cables certainly weren't high quality and probably developed issues far more easily than a higher quality cable, but I could also go into any guitar store that sold those cables and then trade them in for fresh ones, no questions asked. It wasn't like I really had that many gigs, so being guaranteed not to ever have to buy new cables was easily worth it even if it meant that I would have to go back to the store any time they failed. Eventually I got old enough that I had more disposable income and would play a bit more often to the point where it would be more inconvenient to have to get a replacement on short notice, so I moved on to buying higher quality ones, but I don't really see the experience I got as a scam. Maybe the were marketed to the point where people who really weren't getting the benefits from their model were still buying them when they would be better served by a different company's cables, but I feel like the model they were trying to do did at least make sense for me at the time, and I think that it's worth making a distinction between "trying to exploit naive customers by selling something no one needs" and "trying to market beyond the actual customer base that is served well by the business model", mostly because I feel like the latter is a spectrum that quite a lot of companies fall on to some degree, and it's not as clear to me where exactly the line should be drawn for how "acceptable" this is. (I'd be fine with literally any instance of this being called out and shamed, but realistically I think this is looked past by most people so much of the time that it's not accurate to claim anyone is actually doing it)
- sandworm101 2y agoThis is why pro gear doesnt come with a replacement warranty. The seconds/minutes spent finding and swapping a cable during a live show far exceeds any concept of replacement costs. Multiply any failure rate by the hundreds or even thousands of cables at a modern concert and any failure rate is unacceptable. If you care, buy good parts and build the cables yourself by hand. That is the only way to be sure it was done right.