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> Mostly calibrated to decrease American dominance in the sector. If the EU takes actions specifically designed to hurt the US, do you think the US wouldn't re

> Mostly calibrated to decrease American dominance in the sector. If the EU takes actions specifically designed to hurt the US, do you think the US wouldn't respond in kind? This is ironically similar to Trump imposing tariffs on Canada and acting surprised when they imposed tariffs in response. The relatively free trade between the US and the EU has been mutually beneficial. The number #1 selling car in the EU is made by an American company [1]. And the US is a huge market for luxury European cars [2]. Everyone is better off by being able to choose between a European or an American car rather than being forced to buy domestic. [1] https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2023-full-year-europe-top-50-best-selling-car-models/ https://www.best-selling-cars.com/europe/2023-full-year-euro... [2] https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/article/detail/T0438942EN_US/bmw-of-north-america-reports-q4-2023-and-full-year-2023-u-s-sales-results?language=en_US https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/usa/article/detail/T0438942EN...

surgical_fire 2y ago
> If the EU takes actions specifically designed to hurt the US, do you think the US wouldn't respond in kind? The US has started the trade war against EU already, with tariffs on steeel/aluminum - assuming they are still active, Trump seemingly lacks cojones to keep tariffs up once others retaliate. Not to say the active hostility against EU, by threatening to annex Greenland (which is currently a Danish territory), open support for Putin in his aggression against Ukraine (which threatens Europe) and so on. At this point the US should be seen as a hostile foreign nation by EU. EU is doing well by tightening the screws against US tech giants. Those companies are possibly a threat to essential infrastructure, and should be treated as such too.
- bhelkey 2y ago
  > The US has started the trade war against EU already On March 12th the US imposed a tariff on steel/aluminum, the EU responded with an tariff of total equivalent value on US steel/aluminum/agricultural products [1]. This is the core of my point, the US created a tariff against the EU, the EU responded in kind. > the active hostility against EU, by threatening to annex Greenland...[Trump's] aggression against Ukraine Trump has said concerning things about both Ukraine and Greenland and I don't want to downplay that. That being said, the US is currently sending both weapons and intelligence to Ukraine [2]. In fact, he US has given Ukraine more aid than the EU and all of its member states combined (though less than all of Europe combined) [3]. Being the largest supplier of aid, sending weapons and sharing intelligence with Ukraine is clearly not siding with Russia. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_750 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_... [2] https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5324926/u-s-resumes-ukraine-military-aid-and-intelligence-sharing-as-kyiv-approves-ceasefire https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5324926/u-s-resumes-ukr... [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o
grimblee 2y ago
The tech industry though is majoritarily dominated by US companies, that pays close to no taxes compared to the benefits they make on EU citizen. This is a large scale extraction of wealth from the EU, and it has been going on for 20+ years. They can cry all they want about it, it's very clear we (the EU) have much more to gain than to loose by kicking them out and growing our own solutions. Not to mention the fascist turn the US are taking with this presidency, we don't want these people owning our digital lives.

surgical_fire 2y ago

> If the EU takes actions specifically designed to hurt the US, do you think the US wouldn't respond in kind? The US has started the trade war against EU already, with tariffs on steeel/aluminum - assuming they are still active, Trump seemingly lacks cojones to keep tariffs up once others retaliate. Not to say the active hostility against EU, by threatening to annex Greenland (which is currently a Danish territory), open support for Putin in his aggression against Ukraine (which threatens Europe) and so on. At this point the US should be seen as a hostile foreign nation by EU. EU is doing well by tightening the screws against US tech giants. Those companies are possibly a threat to essential infrastructure, and should be treated as such too.

bhelkey 2y ago
> The US has started the trade war against EU already On March 12th the US imposed a tariff on steel/aluminum, the EU responded with an tariff of total equivalent value on US steel/aluminum/agricultural products [1]. This is the core of my point, the US created a tariff against the EU, the EU responded in kind. > the active hostility against EU, by threatening to annex Greenland...[Trump's] aggression against Ukraine Trump has said concerning things about both Ukraine and Greenland and I don't want to downplay that. That being said, the US is currently sending both weapons and intelligence to Ukraine [2]. In fact, he US has given Ukraine more aid than the EU and all of its member states combined (though less than all of Europe combined) [3]. Being the largest supplier of aid, sending weapons and sharing intelligence with Ukraine is clearly not siding with Russia. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_25_750 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_... [2] https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5324926/u-s-resumes-ukraine-military-aid-and-intelligence-sharing-as-kyiv-approves-ceasefire https://www.npr.org/2025/03/12/nx-s1-5324926/u-s-resumes-ukr... [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o

grimblee 2y ago

The tech industry though is majoritarily dominated by US companies, that pays close to no taxes compared to the benefits they make on EU citizen. This is a large scale extraction of wealth from the EU, and it has been going on for 20+ years. They can cry all they want about it, it's very clear we (the EU) have much more to gain than to loose by kicking them out and growing our own solutions. Not to mention the fascist turn the US are taking with this presidency, we don't want these people owning our digital lives.