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I agree that everyone needs to face the consequences to their actions but feels a bit hypocritical and unfair seeing as how people with power and money just get

by taosx 2y ago

I agree that everyone needs to face the consequences to their actions but feels a bit hypocritical and unfair seeing as how people with power and money just get away with it. I'd also love a clear picture of how these guys were caught so fast.

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ImPostingOnHN 2y ago
> I'd also love a clear picture of how these guys were caught so fast. They probably brought their phones, and walked by some cameras along the way (aren't Teslas covered in them*?) Either would be enough, and I wouldn't be surprised if they parked nearby, too. * - That cybertruck doubles as a surveillance van with footage that is shared with authorities for persecuting/prosecuting people. Expect it to be used against opposition protestors, those who seek abortions, etc.
- taosx 2y ago
  So public surveillance in US is already at the level where you can't do anything without the Government knowing. (not even burn a few nazi Teslas /s). I don't favor Musk at all but I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose, seems like that was blown out of proportion, but the chances are not zero, Musk grew in Pretoria, South Africa which had an Apartheid Government with similar ideology, a place which a lot of nazis took refuge after they lost the war.
  - SR2Z 2y ago
    Musk is a troll. IMO the salute was 100% intentional and done for attention, but the man doesn't actually believe in the core tenets of national socialism.
    - Zigurd 2y ago
      American fascism isn't neonazizm. I'd wager that the people who subscribe to the tenants of "effective accellerationism" and related ideologies are more consciously fascist, and have a more coherent and articulable set of reasons why, than anyone wearing a swastika arm band in a neo-Nazi group. You might say Musk might be too busy playing video games to actually have read up on the subject. He might be more of a hanger on. But the Germans would've charged him with a crime for what he did. They know what they saw.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    He 'accidentally' did it twice. Try not to salute any Nazis on your way to the parking lot...
  - zfg 2y ago
    > I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose Musk did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, and he did it twice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc It's who he is. It's who he wants to be.

by taosx 2y ago

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ImPostingOnHN 2y ago

> I'd also love a clear picture of how these guys were caught so fast. They probably brought their phones, and walked by some cameras along the way (aren't Teslas covered in them*?) Either would be enough, and I wouldn't be surprised if they parked nearby, too. * - That cybertruck doubles as a surveillance van with footage that is shared with authorities for persecuting/prosecuting people. Expect it to be used against opposition protestors, those who seek abortions, etc.

taosx 2y ago
So public surveillance in US is already at the level where you can't do anything without the Government knowing. (not even burn a few nazi Teslas /s). I don't favor Musk at all but I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose, seems like that was blown out of proportion, but the chances are not zero, Musk grew in Pretoria, South Africa which had an Apartheid Government with similar ideology, a place which a lot of nazis took refuge after they lost the war.
- SR2Z 2y ago
  Musk is a troll. IMO the salute was 100% intentional and done for attention, but the man doesn't actually believe in the core tenets of national socialism.
  - Zigurd 2y ago
    American fascism isn't neonazizm. I'd wager that the people who subscribe to the tenants of "effective accellerationism" and related ideologies are more consciously fascist, and have a more coherent and articulable set of reasons why, than anyone wearing a swastika arm band in a neo-Nazi group. You might say Musk might be too busy playing video games to actually have read up on the subject. He might be more of a hanger on. But the Germans would've charged him with a crime for what he did. They know what they saw.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  He 'accidentally' did it twice. Try not to salute any Nazis on your way to the parking lot...
- zfg 2y ago
  > I find it hard to believe that the nazi salute was on purpose Musk did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, and he did it twice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc It's who he is. It's who he wants to be.