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It's not the first time a major airport is down because of power failure, and other airports are working to address this type of vulnerability. > The power vul

It's not the first time a major airport is down because of power failure, and other airports are working to address this type of vulnerability. > The power vulnerability for airports was never made more obvious and painful than in Atlanta seven years ago. An underground electrical system fire in late 2017 damaged two substations and caused a complete outage lasting nearly 12 hours at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport https://www.microgridknowledge.com/microgrids/article/55127597/ground-control-airports-focused-on-microgrids-and-resiliency-wtw-report-says https://www.microgridknowledge.com/microgrids/article/551275...

traceroute66 2y ago
> It's not the first time a major airport is down because of power failure, and other airports are working to address this type of vulnerability. To be fair, I'd probably be more interested to hear what major airports are doing to avoid a reoccurance of CrowdStrike-type scenarios. Which is perhaps a more likely re-occurence than loss of substation feeds.
- belter 2y ago
  "Selected Airports’ Efforts to Enhance Electrical Resilience": https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-105203.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-105203.pdf
sss111 2y ago
Heathrow's power outage is much worse than Atlanta's, this is really bad. Allow me to make my point: 1. UK’s has one major airport to get out of the country—Heathrow. Gatwick and that lot don’t carry the same weight. When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there. 2. UK allows transit visas, so half the people transiting can’t even step out the terminal, what do they do when the airport is closed? The US doesn’t allow that, everyone clears customs/passport control, so no ‘no man’s land’ limbo for stranded passengers. 3. Heathrow's outage is going to take 24 hours as of right now. That's twice Atlanta
- margalabargala 2y ago
  > When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there "right there" It is a ten hour drive from Atlanta to DC. It is a nine hour drive from Atlanta to Miami. It is a six hour drive from Heathrow to Paris.
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  - 4ndrewl 2y ago
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    - margalabargala 2y ago
      No, but it does include the time to get yourself and your vehicle on to and off of the train that carries vehicles through the Channel Tunnel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle
      - 4ndrewl 2y ago
        Ye, I've been travelling on it since the first week it opened. But if you were redirected and had to fend for yourself you would need to book ahead on a tunnel or boat, hire a car to drive from France to Coquelles - find somewhere to drop the car, hire another car in the UK. All assuming you land in Paris in the morning early enough to do all this.
        Symbiote 2y ago
        Then your comment about rowing across the sea is idiotic. The airlines that redirected flights to Paris arranged buses to London.
        4ndrewl 2y ago
        Having thought about it you're correct. Even if you over inflate your tyres it won't provide enough buoyancy even for the smallest Euro-car. An alternative reading to it 'being idiotic' is that it was clearly an exaggeration to prompt some critical thinking about the original claim.

traceroute66 2y ago

> It's not the first time a major airport is down because of power failure, and other airports are working to address this type of vulnerability. To be fair, I'd probably be more interested to hear what major airports are doing to avoid a reoccurance of CrowdStrike-type scenarios. Which is perhaps a more likely re-occurence than loss of substation feeds.

belter 2y ago
"Selected Airports’ Efforts to Enhance Electrical Resilience": https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-105203.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-105203.pdf

sss111 2y ago

Heathrow's power outage is much worse than Atlanta's, this is really bad. Allow me to make my point: 1. UK’s has one major airport to get out of the country—Heathrow. Gatwick and that lot don’t carry the same weight. When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there. 2. UK allows transit visas, so half the people transiting can’t even step out the terminal, what do they do when the airport is closed? The US doesn’t allow that, everyone clears customs/passport control, so no ‘no man’s land’ limbo for stranded passengers. 3. Heathrow's outage is going to take 24 hours as of right now. That's twice Atlanta

margalabargala 2y ago
> When Heathrow goes down, you’re proper stuck. Atlanta has DC, Miami right there "right there" It is a ten hour drive from Atlanta to DC. It is a nine hour drive from Atlanta to Miami. It is a six hour drive from Heathrow to Paris.
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- 4ndrewl 2y ago
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  - margalabargala 2y ago
    No, but it does include the time to get yourself and your vehicle on to and off of the train that carries vehicles through the Channel Tunnel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeShuttle
    - 4ndrewl 2y ago
      Ye, I've been travelling on it since the first week it opened. But if you were redirected and had to fend for yourself you would need to book ahead on a tunnel or boat, hire a car to drive from France to Coquelles - find somewhere to drop the car, hire another car in the UK. All assuming you land in Paris in the morning early enough to do all this.
      - Symbiote 2y ago
        Then your comment about rowing across the sea is idiotic. The airlines that redirected flights to Paris arranged buses to London.
        4ndrewl 2y ago
        Having thought about it you're correct. Even if you over inflate your tyres it won't provide enough buoyancy even for the smallest Euro-car. An alternative reading to it 'being idiotic' is that it was clearly an exaggeration to prompt some critical thinking about the original claim.