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This mentality is exactly the problem. The idea that people with more money should get to decide how people with less money get to spend it. And if they don't s
by slimscsi 2y ago
This mentality is exactly the problem. The idea that people with more money should get to decide how people with less money get to spend it. And if they don't sped it the way they want, Its waste.
reminds me a lot of Innuendo Studios "Always a bigger fish" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> if they don't sped it the way they want, Its waste If the people doing the work have to spend taxes so people who don’t work can stay at home, yes, the former get a say in how the latter live.
- slimscsi 2y agoThis is a straw man. Nobody is talking about funding people to the point where they get everything they need for free. That's insane. We are talking about giving people bootstraps so they can pull them selves up with them. Reducing poverty reduces crime and health care costs as well.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Nobody is talking about funding people to the point where they get everything they need for free. That's insane. We are talking about giving people bootstraps If it isn’t funding subsistence it isn’t basic income. Whether we flourish that as welfare or bootstraps is rhetorical dressing.
- slimscsi 2y ago"If it isn’t funding subsistence it isn’t basic income" is just rhetorical dressing of the term "basic income".
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoNo, it’s a definition. The reason it’s basic. “Bootstraps” is a metaphor.
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- dredmorbius 2y agoLast I checked, the United States does in fact have representation. At least nominally, and quite arguably beyond that. The objection above seems far less about representation than taxation, and the original objection explicitly allows for the latter.
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- consteval 2y ago> If it's my tax money, I get to say how it's spent. No? This has never been how it works. We all get to decide how it’s spent by voting. You don’t get to individually decide because, obviously, you’re always just gonna choose yourself. In which case - why bother taxing you? There’s really two camps here: people who think taxation goes towards freeloaders, and people who think taxation goes towards the community. I’m in the second camp. I believe these things are mutually beneficial. I want to live in a country with less homelessness, less drugs, less violence, less crimes, more education. That costs money, and I’m happy to give it up because I think I DO benefit, just not directly.