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“Levels don’t matter except for these levels that I care about” :rolleyes: All titles are made up. No one fits a role/title perfectly. It’s all a bunch of bul
by joshstrange 2y ago
“Levels don’t matter except for these levels that I care about”
:rolleyes:
All titles are made up. No one fits a role/title perfectly. It’s all a bunch of bullshit. Normally it’s really just using salary ranges as the core thing people care about and people move up “titles” while not improving their skills one bit (seniority, playing politics better, etc).
At my last company they made a big deal about becoming a “senior developer”, it was a lot more responsibly, work, _pay_, etc. Years later I (and another developer) was outperforming the “senior” developers by a good margin and the company gave us both title bumps, a 3% CoL raise, and… $1K bonus.
That was probably the last time I believed in any sort of sanity in ranking/titles/etc.
Ask for what you want, don’t wait for a “performance review”, yes it’s uncomfortable, get over it. No ranking system is going to accurately reflect skills.
- ryanjshaw 2y ago> All titles are made up Well yes, literally, but that's not the point. The author is saying that Lx titles inherently don't make sense and he sees more value in a model based on accountability and responsibility. My understanding: - manager: responsible for putting effort into execution - director: responsible for executing a plan, not accountable for its success - VP: responsible for the plan and accountable for its success
- joshstrange 2y agoThose are great ideas in theory I guess but not at all how they are treated industry wide and often not how they are treated within the same company. 99% of the time titles have very little to do with what someone does day to day. It’s just not that simple and clear cut. All that to say, I don’t find one persons thoughts on what those titles mean very useful since that’s just what it means to that specific person. There is no, that I’m aware of, industry-wide agreement. Not to mention I find those definitions to be silly, overly simple, and not how anyone thinks of their job.
- ryanjshaw 2y agoSee what I said to the other guy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43434093#43456611 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43434093#43456611
- stronglikedan 2y agoUnfortunately, shit will always roll downhill. I can tell your understanding is an ideal scenario, because it's the opposite of how the real world works.
- ryanjshaw 2y ago1. I didn't write the article. 2. I suggest you read the sidebar listing the author's real-world achievements.