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>The IndieWeb is the web version of freeholding. It won't change the World, but without it, the World can't change. Freeholding has always existed since the we

>The IndieWeb is the web version of freeholding. It won't change the World, but without it, the World can't change. Freeholding has always existed since the web was born. The current structure of overwhelmingly dominant landlords was built on top of it. The problem we have is that the IndieWeb is not currently a viable alternative for most content creators who need to make a living. If it's not economically viable then it's by definition a hobby. "Taking off" may not be the right yardstick, but I think walking away from the goal of making the IndieWeb economically effective enough to claim back some territory from the oligopolists just means giving up.

freeone3000 2y ago
Making money from a website ruins the entire point — you’re now part of the problem.
- fauigerzigerk 2y ago
  If my desire to make a living without submitting to some all powerful overlord makes me part of the problem, then we disagree on a very fundamental level on what the point actually is.
- protonbob 2y ago
  Would you say the same about music or fine art? What is the "point" exactly? History's greatest writers and artists have generally been able to dedicate their time to working because they are supported financially by selling their work.
- PaulRobinson 2y ago
  I think making money from a website is fine. You can sell products and services, and that's great. I think adtech on websites is a problem. And social media is an adtech product, not a content product. IndieWeb for me is about reducing reliance on adtech. You want to build a page to showcase your hand-carved penguins? Cool, hit me up with a URL! Selling independently produced courses or 1:1 mentorship? Offering consultancy or classes? Cool! Wrapping it all up in an adtech hell hole for people to harvest my data and then try and scam me or sell me utter crap based on browsing patterns around "news stories" that are false? Nah, I'll pass, thanks.

freeone3000 2y ago

Making money from a website ruins the entire point — you’re now part of the problem.

fauigerzigerk 2y ago
If my desire to make a living without submitting to some all powerful overlord makes me part of the problem, then we disagree on a very fundamental level on what the point actually is.
protonbob 2y ago
Would you say the same about music or fine art? What is the "point" exactly? History's greatest writers and artists have generally been able to dedicate their time to working because they are supported financially by selling their work.
PaulRobinson 2y ago
I think making money from a website is fine. You can sell products and services, and that's great. I think adtech on websites is a problem. And social media is an adtech product, not a content product. IndieWeb for me is about reducing reliance on adtech. You want to build a page to showcase your hand-carved penguins? Cool, hit me up with a URL! Selling independently produced courses or 1:1 mentorship? Offering consultancy or classes? Cool! Wrapping it all up in an adtech hell hole for people to harvest my data and then try and scam me or sell me utter crap based on browsing patterns around "news stories" that are false? Nah, I'll pass, thanks.