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So, given that the Kindle deadline has passed, is there still a way to liberate those files?

by Tepix 2y ago

JamesMcMinn 2y ago
Having switched to a kobo in the last week from a kindle, yes it is still possible, but involves a few steps, one of which can require an old version of the kindle for PC app. [1] I couldn't make it work on books already downloaded to my kindle - they had to be downloaded via the app - and since it requires an old version of an app that automatically tries to update, I'm not sure how long it'll be possible, so my suggestion is to dump kindle and Amazon if you every want to have any control over your books. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1jbsf2n/comment/mhwhxff/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1jbsf2n/comment/mhwhx...
- gonzus 2y ago
  I can confirm this: I downloaded the old version of the app (on a Windows laptop), isolated it so that it would not auto-update, and then used it to download all my books (after the deadline had passed) and convert them with Calibre, which got rid of the DRM crap. You have to do both the downloading and the conversion on the same computer -- other than that, it worked perfectly for my more than 100 books.
- kokada 2y ago
  Thanks, I didn't know about this change and it is too late to use the "official means". I have to setup my Windows again and do it eventually though.
theshrike79 2y ago
I depends on your ethical limitations. Do you want the _exact_ book file you've downloaded or just _a_ file of the book you purchased (a license to read)? For the latter, finding (main stream) ebooks isn't exactly hard, but it also isn't exactly legal. For example I buy physical copies of books, which I don't have the space for. Then I donate them away and "acquire" the ebook version to read and archive. If an author sells the ebook directly without Amazon (or Rakuten) as a middleman, I purchase it from them directly.
- adhamsalama 2y ago
  But Meta said it's okay to download them if you don't distribute them!
- layer8 2y ago
  Donating the book away technically forfeits your moral right to the “acquired” copy. Whoever benefits from the donation may otherwise have purchased a separate copy of the book.
  - nickthegreek 2y ago
    The Shrike certainly has some deep soul searching to do here. I am frankly aghast at such a suggestion and totally agree with you that on this technicality, his ethically fiber has waived. I hope he can find a way back to the light, if such a thing is even possible after his dubious and destructive actions of, checks notes, giving publishers money but not enough to keep his soul clean.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    So if I do the same with movies (buy it, rip it and donate it), I'm again "technically forfeiting my moral right?" Or should I just burn the book so I don't taint a potential book buyer? :D
    - layer8 2y ago
      Yes, it’s the same with movies. :) In the extreme, someone could buy one DVD, rip it, and pass it on (for money or for free, it doesn’t matter) to a chain of hundreds of people who do the same and now all get to keep the movie digitally forever, while the copyright holder only sold the single initial copy. My point is not to admonish anyone, just to point out how passing on the physical copy while keeping an uncompensated digital copy is inconsistent with the goal of compensating creators proportionally.
      - nickthegreek 2y ago
        the goal of compensation creators proportionally flew out the door when the publisher took 85%.
mikae1 2y ago
What deadline?
equinoxnemesis 2y ago
Apparently if you have a 11th gen or older Kindle device, the KFX Input plugin and the latest DeDRM will allow you to pull books off it and crack the DRM. This worked for me with my 10th gen Kindle, after the removal of the web download feature.

So, given that the Kindle deadline has passed, is there still a way to liberate those files?

by Tepix 2y ago

So, given that the Kindle deadline has passed, is there still a way to liberate those files?

Having switched to a kobo in the last week from a kindle, yes it is still possible, but involves a few steps, one of which can require an old version of the kindle for PC app. [1] I couldn't make it work on books already downloaded to my kindle - they had to be downloaded via the app - and since it requires an old version of an app that automatically tries to update, I'm not sure how long it'll be possible, so my suggestion is to dump kindle and Amazon if you every want to have any control over your books. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1jbsf2n/comment/mhwhxff/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1jbsf2n/comment/mhwhx...

gonzus 2y ago
I can confirm this: I downloaded the old version of the app (on a Windows laptop), isolated it so that it would not auto-update, and then used it to download all my books (after the deadline had passed) and convert them with Calibre, which got rid of the DRM crap. You have to do both the downloading and the conversion on the same computer -- other than that, it worked perfectly for my more than 100 books.
kokada 2y ago
Thanks, I didn't know about this change and it is too late to use the "official means". I have to setup my Windows again and do it eventually though.

theshrike79 2y ago

I depends on your ethical limitations. Do you want the _exact_ book file you've downloaded or just _a_ file of the book you purchased (a license to read)? For the latter, finding (main stream) ebooks isn't exactly hard, but it also isn't exactly legal. For example I buy physical copies of books, which I don't have the space for. Then I donate them away and "acquire" the ebook version to read and archive. If an author sells the ebook directly without Amazon (or Rakuten) as a middleman, I purchase it from them directly.

adhamsalama 2y ago
But Meta said it's okay to download them if you don't distribute them!
layer8 2y ago
Donating the book away technically forfeits your moral right to the “acquired” copy. Whoever benefits from the donation may otherwise have purchased a separate copy of the book.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  The Shrike certainly has some deep soul searching to do here. I am frankly aghast at such a suggestion and totally agree with you that on this technicality, his ethically fiber has waived. I hope he can find a way back to the light, if such a thing is even possible after his dubious and destructive actions of, checks notes, giving publishers money but not enough to keep his soul clean.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  So if I do the same with movies (buy it, rip it and donate it), I'm again "technically forfeiting my moral right?" Or should I just burn the book so I don't taint a potential book buyer? :D
  - layer8 2y ago
    Yes, it’s the same with movies. :) In the extreme, someone could buy one DVD, rip it, and pass it on (for money or for free, it doesn’t matter) to a chain of hundreds of people who do the same and now all get to keep the movie digitally forever, while the copyright holder only sold the single initial copy. My point is not to admonish anyone, just to point out how passing on the physical copy while keeping an uncompensated digital copy is inconsistent with the goal of compensating creators proportionally.
    - nickthegreek 2y ago
      the goal of compensation creators proportionally flew out the door when the publisher took 85%.

mikae1 2y ago

What deadline?

equinoxnemesis 2y ago

Apparently if you have a 11th gen or older Kindle device, the KFX Input plugin and the latest DeDRM will allow you to pull books off it and crack the DRM. This worked for me with my 10th gen Kindle, after the removal of the web download feature.