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This website mixes some very real and very big problems (erosion of basic freedoms and rights in the US) with some entirely hallucinated ones (concentration cam

by bloppe 2y ago

This website mixes some very real and very big problems (erosion of basic freedoms and rights in the US) with some entirely hallucinated ones (concentration camps for people with ADHD, and torture? I'd certainly want to learn more about that than a passing mention). Personally I think the hyperbole only serves to cheapen the real problems.

danielscrubs 2y ago
European here, no one should take that website seriously. It’s full of incoherent ramblings. Im a bit disappointed in HN for ranking it so high. Time to take a look at the bot detection algo?
onli 2y ago
Note that the German greencard holder currently being illegally detained described that he was tortured. See https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-03/deutscher-us-abschiebehaft-bundesregierung https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-03/deutscher-us-abschiebeha...
- doener 2y ago
  Translation via DeepL: "The German's mother made serious accusations against the immigration authorities in the US media. She told NHPR in New Hampshire that officers had "violently interrogated" her son for hours. He had to strip naked and was forced to take a cold shower by two officers before being put back in his chair. He was then taken to a room with other people in bright light and was given hardly any food or water. He was also denied access to his medication. According to his mother, the man eventually collapsed and was taken to hospital. It later turned out that he had the flu."
  - _cenw 2y ago
    The government employees at these border crossing definitely feel too confident that whatever they do will get covered up or ignored by the people above them. And all trust I ever had in the forth estate - nationally and internationally - has gone with this entire mess of a presidency too. They mostly seem to parrot each other's assurances that things that are happening are completely normal, or at least understate heavily. I'm happy outliers exist, including some unexpected ones like Wired Magazine.
    - gaudystead 2y ago
      WIRED Magazine crawling out of the pits of being a glorified collection of advertisements to having quality journalism pieces about tech related news was not something I was expecting for these times, but I'm happy to have been pleasantly surprised.
megous 2y ago
Americans should learn that solitary detention is torture. Check out all the effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement Also support for genocide is major international crime, btw, which is another crime Americans are very blasé about, while commiting it.
praptak 2y ago
Solitary confinement is torture: https://phr.org/our-work/resources/endless-nightmare-solitary-confinement-in-us-immigration-detention/ https://phr.org/our-work/resources/endless-nightmare-solitar...
hayst4ck 2y ago
This is an administration that openly is talking about annexing Canada, as well as invading panama and Greenland. It's an administration that has literally said "we want government workers in trauma." Historians are actively comparing us to Nazi Germany. https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-expe... The holocaust started as a deportation effort. Trump reportedly said "I wish I had Hitler's generals." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-some-good-things-and-wanted-generals-like-the-nazis-former-chief-of-staff-kelly-claims https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-... 3-4 prominent republicans have Sieg Heiled in public, including Bannon who did not put his hand on his heart first. You are confusing hyperbole for actually shocking news, and it's so shocking it's easily mistaken for hyperbole because if you don't bury your head in the ground it's too much to bear. Accepting the truth of whats happening means you must act, and so people are opting not to accept it to protect their mental health. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5276898/rfk-drugs-addiction-overdose-hhs-confirmation-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5276898/rfk-drugs-addic... "I'm going to bring a new industry to [rural] America, where addicts can help each other recover from their addictions," Kennedy promised, during a film on addiction released by his presidential campaign. "We're going to build hundreds of healing farms where American kids can reconnect with America's soil." That's the kernel of truth, but when you bring in the historical context of authoritarian regimes, and the absolute lack of rule of law, you start to get very very afraid.
- cmurf 2y ago
  In the 1965 book Night of Camp David the president's cabinet realized he was insane because of his fixation on annexing Canada. In 2025 Americans are so anesthetized even the "opposition party" can't say the obvious out loud in public. Let alone the president's cabinet. People voting for a dictator isn't equivalent to 3/4 of the legislatures ratifying an amendment to the Constitution. The People have not given consent to set aside the Constitutional order. If the People want to set aside the Constitution, they must do the hard work of convincing enough people in enough states to do it lawfully. Otherwise it's settled with might makes right. For all the flaws of the founding fathers they definitely understood power. How it gets consolidated. And how to fragment it. Their advice is polyarchy. What we're witnessing is autogolpe to establish a CEO-dictator, the consolidation of power. In no universe are Trump, Vance, Musk, Thiel, Yarvin on the right side of history. And they will fail.
singularity2001 2y ago
Gitmo is still active (!?)

by bloppe 2y ago

danielscrubs 2y ago

European here, no one should take that website seriously. It’s full of incoherent ramblings. Im a bit disappointed in HN for ranking it so high. Time to take a look at the bot detection algo?

onli 2y ago

Note that the German greencard holder currently being illegally detained described that he was tortured. See https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-03/deutscher-us-abschiebehaft-bundesregierung https://www.zeit.de/politik/2025-03/deutscher-us-abschiebeha...

doener 2y ago
Translation via DeepL: "The German's mother made serious accusations against the immigration authorities in the US media. She told NHPR in New Hampshire that officers had "violently interrogated" her son for hours. He had to strip naked and was forced to take a cold shower by two officers before being put back in his chair. He was then taken to a room with other people in bright light and was given hardly any food or water. He was also denied access to his medication. According to his mother, the man eventually collapsed and was taken to hospital. It later turned out that he had the flu."
- _cenw 2y ago
  The government employees at these border crossing definitely feel too confident that whatever they do will get covered up or ignored by the people above them. And all trust I ever had in the forth estate - nationally and internationally - has gone with this entire mess of a presidency too. They mostly seem to parrot each other's assurances that things that are happening are completely normal, or at least understate heavily. I'm happy outliers exist, including some unexpected ones like Wired Magazine.
  - gaudystead 2y ago
    WIRED Magazine crawling out of the pits of being a glorified collection of advertisements to having quality journalism pieces about tech related news was not something I was expecting for these times, but I'm happy to have been pleasantly surprised.

megous 2y ago

Americans should learn that solitary detention is torture. Check out all the effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement Also support for genocide is major international crime, btw, which is another crime Americans are very blasé about, while commiting it.

praptak 2y ago

Solitary confinement is torture: https://phr.org/our-work/resources/endless-nightmare-solitary-confinement-in-us-immigration-detention/ https://phr.org/our-work/resources/endless-nightmare-solitar...

hayst4ck 2y ago

This is an administration that openly is talking about annexing Canada, as well as invading panama and Greenland. It's an administration that has literally said "we want government workers in trauma." Historians are actively comparing us to Nazi Germany. https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-expecting https://snyder.substack.com/p/what-to-expect-when-youre-expe... The holocaust started as a deportation effort. Trump reportedly said "I wish I had Hitler's generals." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-some-good-things-and-wanted-generals-like-the-nazis-former-chief-of-staff-kelly-claims https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-said-hitler-did-... 3-4 prominent republicans have Sieg Heiled in public, including Bannon who did not put his hand on his heart first. You are confusing hyperbole for actually shocking news, and it's so shocking it's easily mistaken for hyperbole because if you don't bury your head in the ground it's too much to bear. Accepting the truth of whats happening means you must act, and so people are opting not to accept it to protect their mental health. https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5276898/rfk-drugs-addiction-overdose-hhs-confirmation-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5276898/rfk-drugs-addic... "I'm going to bring a new industry to [rural] America, where addicts can help each other recover from their addictions," Kennedy promised, during a film on addiction released by his presidential campaign. "We're going to build hundreds of healing farms where American kids can reconnect with America's soil." That's the kernel of truth, but when you bring in the historical context of authoritarian regimes, and the absolute lack of rule of law, you start to get very very afraid.

cmurf 2y ago
In the 1965 book Night of Camp David the president's cabinet realized he was insane because of his fixation on annexing Canada. In 2025 Americans are so anesthetized even the "opposition party" can't say the obvious out loud in public. Let alone the president's cabinet. People voting for a dictator isn't equivalent to 3/4 of the legislatures ratifying an amendment to the Constitution. The People have not given consent to set aside the Constitutional order. If the People want to set aside the Constitution, they must do the hard work of convincing enough people in enough states to do it lawfully. Otherwise it's settled with might makes right. For all the flaws of the founding fathers they definitely understood power. How it gets consolidated. And how to fragment it. Their advice is polyarchy. What we're witnessing is autogolpe to establish a CEO-dictator, the consolidation of power. In no universe are Trump, Vance, Musk, Thiel, Yarvin on the right side of history. And they will fail.

singularity2001 2y ago

Gitmo is still active (!?)