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There’s a webcomic, “Joe vs. Elan School”, that might be an enlightening read for you.

• silisili 2y ago
  This actually resonates a bit with my own thoughts from these comments. If we assume a drug abuser is doomed for death in the next 6 months. But by using them as slave labor in terrible conditions for 3 years guarantees they will live to old age, regardless of any psychological trauma from said experience, is it worth it? I'm not taking a position, I'm just making a thought experiment. It's more of a moral philosophical thing than an answer, I guess. I think a lot of people not in the midwest may not understand the gravity of the fentanyl problem in the US. Literally every family is affected, whether directly or indirectly.
  • rendx 2y ago
    What makes it so that some people/cultures seem to value age over anything else? If their lives continue to be miserable, broken inside, violent temper thanks to being treated like a slave, a long life to me sounds more like a punishment than a goal. It's basically a religious war. One side seems to think they need to "break people's spirit" by "work camps", the other side seems to believe in "healing from violence" by compassion. You're free to pick your side, but it's going to get harder to switch, and the other side will treat you as their enemy.
  • BriggyDwiggs42 2y ago
    Your thought experiment, the drug dealer being universally doomed, the only consequence being a state of slavery for a finite time, etc has no relation to reality.
  • dns_snek 2y ago
    > is it worth it? The answer is a very obvious "no" in any society that claims to be free. > I'm not taking a position Frankly it's terrifying that these sorts of questions are being posed as real dilemmas in western societies in 2025.