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> It’s only adversarial because you want to get as much pay as possible out of them for as little productivity as possible. Or maybe pay that’s proportional to
by itsgrimetime 2y ago
> It’s only adversarial because you want to get as much pay as possible out of them for as little productivity as possible.
Or maybe pay that’s proportional to the value we provide
- paulcole 2y agoIt’s always proportional to the value you provide. You just don’t like the proportion lol. What specific proportion do you think is fair? And how do you calculate the value you provide?
- saagarjha 2y agoI mean, the same question can be asked of my employer.
- bradlys 2y agoIn a capitalist market, it is explicitly not proportional to the amount of value you provide. That is the underlaying principle of capitalism… Read up a bit, man. Even a capitalist would agree with this.
- paulcole 2y agoI can assure you it is. You get paid X. You deliver Y value. The proportion is X / Y. Sometimes that proportion is very high, sometimes it is very low. Sometimes it is negative. Sometimes you get a divide by zero error. And again, the questions. What specific proportion do you think is fair? And how do you calculate the value you provide?
- bradlys 2y agoJesus Christ. That’s not how it works! Capitalism is explicitly not about that. Holy shit this is insane that you think that’s how capitalism works on a website that’s literally about venture capital. What the fuck.
- paulcole 2y agoX and Y exist right? Why can’t you divide them to make a proportion?
- banannaise 2y agoAmong other reasons, because the employer holds all of that information and I'm not given access to it. It's an asymmetric information problem.
- paulcole 2y agoBut you can for sure tell me the proportion that you think is fair right? Should it be 25%, 50%, 99%?
- fwip 2y agoYou're not arguing in good faith, dude.
- try_the_bass 2y agoI dunno, he's asking a really basic question that should be trivial to answer. When I see a basic, level-setting question like this go unanswered, it starts to seem like the side refusing to answer is the one acting in bad faith, not the side asking the question
- ever1337 2y agoThe workers will decide and they will dictate it to you as you have done unto them.