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Sure they can. Imagine the unions that make it hard to fire people - either because of individual performance, or because of downsizing. 1. Tech workers are cu

by theamk 2y ago

Sure they can. Imagine the unions that make it hard to fire people - either because of individual performance, or because of downsizing. 1. Tech workers are currently treated well - good hours, good salary, great benefits, etc... (until they are fired / position is eliminated). 2. If unions appear which make firing people hard, companies would stop hiring in US, and switch to India or temp contractors.

jakelazaroff 2y ago
I suppose "treated well" is kinda nebulous. Personally, I'd say it encompasses job security, so if unions make it hard to fire people then they are improving treatment of workers.
krainboltgreene 2y ago
Brother they’ve been threatening that for decades. If that was possible they would have done it 40 years ago.
- echelon 2y ago
  Wake up. Engineers in other countries are just as good as we are. The only reason we don't hire remote is that the business functions here keep the same hours. You throw unions into the mix and suddenly dealing with the time difference becomes the lesser evil.
  - krainboltgreene 2y ago
    I hire remote programmers in multiple countries. I absolutely know that they’re as good as we are. I promise you that capitalists aren’t really concerned with time differences.
c0redump 2y ago
> tech workers are currently treated well I’m sorry, but you must not be paying attention to the current climate. To name one example, Facebook just laid off many workers and explicitly labeled them “low performers”. Tech companies have already been caught colluding to suppress wages. They are sending as many jobs as they can overseas, and bringing in even more h1b workers. It is clear to anyone that’s paying attention that they are doing their best to damage our negotiating position so that they no longer have to treat us well (read: fairly)
sjamaan 2y ago
2. hasn't happened in Europe, where it's famously hard to fire people. Why would this happen in the US?

by theamk 2y ago

jakelazaroff 2y ago

I suppose "treated well" is kinda nebulous. Personally, I'd say it encompasses job security, so if unions make it hard to fire people then they are improving treatment of workers.

krainboltgreene 2y ago

Brother they’ve been threatening that for decades. If that was possible they would have done it 40 years ago.

echelon 2y ago
Wake up. Engineers in other countries are just as good as we are. The only reason we don't hire remote is that the business functions here keep the same hours. You throw unions into the mix and suddenly dealing with the time difference becomes the lesser evil.
- krainboltgreene 2y ago
  I hire remote programmers in multiple countries. I absolutely know that they’re as good as we are. I promise you that capitalists aren’t really concerned with time differences.

c0redump 2y ago

> tech workers are currently treated well I’m sorry, but you must not be paying attention to the current climate. To name one example, Facebook just laid off many workers and explicitly labeled them “low performers”. Tech companies have already been caught colluding to suppress wages. They are sending as many jobs as they can overseas, and bringing in even more h1b workers. It is clear to anyone that’s paying attention that they are doing their best to damage our negotiating position so that they no longer have to treat us well (read: fairly)

sjamaan 2y ago

2. hasn't happened in Europe, where it's famously hard to fire people. Why would this happen in the US?