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I've read that on Reddit and I'm now reading that Britain issued a travel warning... Adding that up plus all the things that can happen until next month, would

by atum47 2y ago

I've read that on Reddit and I'm now reading that Britain issued a travel warning... Adding that up plus all the things that can happen until next month, would you consider it safe for a Brazilian to visit the US is this climate? Update: typos

burkaman 2y ago
Yes in that statistically you would probably be fine, over a million Brazilian tourists come to the US every year. No in that it is much less safe to visit today then it was a year ago, and authorities will specifically be targeting people who look South American. If you closely follow the rules of the visa you're using and you don't do anything to stand out, as in you just have a normal-looking tourist itinerary, then you'll probably be fine. If it's just a vacation I would probably pick somewhere else this year though.
- ty6853 2y ago
  I get put in secondary almost every time and it is pretty much always jam packed with sad people, although I am usually the only English speaker so I have trouble finding out what happened exactly. Sometimes they sit in chairs next to me, other times in immigration holding cell next to me. The incidence rate of something traumatizing happening has to be closer to 1+%
aaomidi 2y ago
Do you have tattoos? If so probably stay away for now...
- briandear 2y ago
  Only if they are TdA or MS13 tattoos and the person entered illegally, otherwise, no problem.
  - Griffinsauce 2y ago
    Do you know or want this to be the facts? Because the main problem right now is that it's an unknown.
  - klipt 2y ago
    Venezuelan Soccer player, Jerce Reyes Barrios was deported to Cecot prison in El Salvador for having a Real Madrid soccer tattoo. "none of those who enter the Cecot ever leave on foot"
    - Yoric 2y ago
      I found this very surprising, so I went looking for confirmation. Sadly, found it: Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-deported-el-salvador-alien-enemies-act-soccer-logo-tattoo-attorney/story?id=119983892 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-deported-el-salvador-ali...
  - aaomidi 2y ago
    Did they have due process? No? In that case we have *no idea* what actually happened.
klipt 2y ago
Looking at the stories it seems much safer to fly in than cross the land border. This French guy flew in and was turned around. Unpleasant but much less unpleasant than the Canadian woman who crossed the land border from Mexico and was imprisoned in a for-profit prison for weeks while begging repeatedly to pay for a flight back to Canada (then after she was released, ICE claimed she would have been released earlier if they'd known she'd pay for her flight...)
- briandear 2y ago
  She crossed from Mexico because she had been denied entry previously at another crossing.
  - jajko 2y ago
    Which in normal moral fair society doesn't change anything. But US treats other nationalities like subhumans, and thats not even the issue of current administration but a long term situation for at least 2 decades I keep following the topic. But as long as its not happening to them or their closest ones US folks generally don't seem to care (enough). I don't think EU has it any better just to be clear, we humans seem to be generally deeply flawed creatures.
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    - seec 2y ago
      Treating people from other countries as a threat either politically or economically has nothing to do with think they are subhuman. In fact, if it was actually what they thought they would allow entry to them for exploitation, because a subhuman cannot reason or compete properly right? It's funny that the real bigots are realizing that plenty of people have had enough of the racist moralist and that they would rather had tightly controlled entry to their country. In the case of the article, it's quite funny, because the guy was apparently a political dissident, one that does not even live in the country (so what he has to say is not only irrelevant but also dangerous because he won't have to bear the weight of his choices/propaganda). Of course, this nonsense come from people complaining about Musk meddling in German politics. Before you can complain about others behavior, you need to fix yours so that it at least matches your stated ideal.
buyucu 2y ago
I had a business trip to the US planned, but decided to do it via video instead. I'm not taking the chance.
- jll29 2y ago
  Very smart. The problem is not that they have unreasonable rules, but that the implementation is very erratic/volatile/arbitrary right now. Trump orders + a layer of a mix of both Trump fanboys and Trump haters makes it hit or miss whether or not you will have problems or not.
  - buyucu 2y ago
    you're just one grumpy border agent away from being treated in an inhuman way. I don't want that risk in my life.
TylerE 2y ago
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ericmay 2y ago
The travel warning that the UK issued basically said "follow the rules when trying to enter the USA" which is kind of common sense anyway... You should comply with all entry, visa and other conditions of entry. The authorities in the US set and enforce entry rules strictly. You may be liable to arrest or detention if you break the rules. If you’re not sure how these requirements apply to you, contact the US Embassy or a consulate in the UK. [1] A little annoying given the current political climate, but it's not really that big of a deal. [1] https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa/entry-requirements
- nimish 2y ago
  Yes and the UK has very strict entry rules of its own, that it is eager and willing to enforce unless you fall into some special category. Calling this a "warning" is stupid.
  - klipt 2y ago
    If an American tries to enter the UK on the wrong visa, will they be thrown into a for-profit prison? Or just be turned around?
    - masfuerte 2y ago
      An American relative of mine had this experience. She was entering the UK legally but the immigration officer decided something was off and they have an absolute right to decline entry. The last flight back to the USA had gone so she was held overnight in a local police station before flying back the next day. You do at least get your own cell in the UK.
      - klipt 2y ago
        That's unpleasant but flying back on the next available flight is still way better than the Canadian woman who was held for weeks despite begging to pay for her own ticket back to Canada. The UK situation you describe has clear reasoning. The US system just seems to be throwing people into a black hole without rules.
jll29 2y ago
I recommend you don't visit the US, no matter where you are from, unless your life depends on it.
burningChrome 2y ago
If you're not a part of what they're profiling travelers for - the obvious stuff like drug smuggling, bringing copious amounts of money into or out of the country, or other contraband, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Anecdotal evidence is my last trip to go snowboarding in Banff in Alberta Canada. My parents came along because they'd never been to Banff and were excited about seeing the Canadian Rockies. In any case, we land in Alberta and are going through customs. Scary looking dude looks at our passports and asks what we're there for. I say, "snowboarding" my mom says, "site seeing" we immediately shoot each other a look like, "Oh shit, that wasn't good.". Without a blink, border guy told us to move on and keep the line moving. We both spoke about it and agreed that whatever they were looking for, we clearly did not fit the profile they were screening for.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  Just to clarify, parent poster asked about visiting the US but it appears your comment is about visiting Canada. Are you a US citizen that was visiting Canada, or did I misread your comment?

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burkaman 2y ago

Yes in that statistically you would probably be fine, over a million Brazilian tourists come to the US every year. No in that it is much less safe to visit today then it was a year ago, and authorities will specifically be targeting people who look South American. If you closely follow the rules of the visa you're using and you don't do anything to stand out, as in you just have a normal-looking tourist itinerary, then you'll probably be fine. If it's just a vacation I would probably pick somewhere else this year though.

ty6853 2y ago
I get put in secondary almost every time and it is pretty much always jam packed with sad people, although I am usually the only English speaker so I have trouble finding out what happened exactly. Sometimes they sit in chairs next to me, other times in immigration holding cell next to me. The incidence rate of something traumatizing happening has to be closer to 1+%

aaomidi 2y ago

Do you have tattoos? If so probably stay away for now...

briandear 2y ago
Only if they are TdA or MS13 tattoos and the person entered illegally, otherwise, no problem.
- Griffinsauce 2y ago
  Do you know or want this to be the facts? Because the main problem right now is that it's an unknown.
- klipt 2y ago
  Venezuelan Soccer player, Jerce Reyes Barrios was deported to Cecot prison in El Salvador for having a Real Madrid soccer tattoo. "none of those who enter the Cecot ever leave on foot"
  - Yoric 2y ago
    I found this very surprising, so I went looking for confirmation. Sadly, found it: Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-deported-el-salvador-alien-enemies-act-soccer-logo-tattoo-attorney/story?id=119983892 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-deported-el-salvador-ali...
- aaomidi 2y ago
  Did they have due process? No? In that case we have *no idea* what actually happened.

klipt 2y ago

Looking at the stories it seems much safer to fly in than cross the land border. This French guy flew in and was turned around. Unpleasant but much less unpleasant than the Canadian woman who crossed the land border from Mexico and was imprisoned in a for-profit prison for weeks while begging repeatedly to pay for a flight back to Canada (then after she was released, ICE claimed she would have been released earlier if they'd known she'd pay for her flight...)

briandear 2y ago
She crossed from Mexico because she had been denied entry previously at another crossing.
- jajko 2y ago
  Which in normal moral fair society doesn't change anything. But US treats other nationalities like subhumans, and thats not even the issue of current administration but a long term situation for at least 2 decades I keep following the topic. But as long as its not happening to them or their closest ones US folks generally don't seem to care (enough). I don't think EU has it any better just to be clear, we humans seem to be generally deeply flawed creatures.
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  - seec 2y ago
    Treating people from other countries as a threat either politically or economically has nothing to do with think they are subhuman. In fact, if it was actually what they thought they would allow entry to them for exploitation, because a subhuman cannot reason or compete properly right? It's funny that the real bigots are realizing that plenty of people have had enough of the racist moralist and that they would rather had tightly controlled entry to their country. In the case of the article, it's quite funny, because the guy was apparently a political dissident, one that does not even live in the country (so what he has to say is not only irrelevant but also dangerous because he won't have to bear the weight of his choices/propaganda). Of course, this nonsense come from people complaining about Musk meddling in German politics. Before you can complain about others behavior, you need to fix yours so that it at least matches your stated ideal.

buyucu 2y ago

I had a business trip to the US planned, but decided to do it via video instead. I'm not taking the chance.

jll29 2y ago
Very smart. The problem is not that they have unreasonable rules, but that the implementation is very erratic/volatile/arbitrary right now. Trump orders + a layer of a mix of both Trump fanboys and Trump haters makes it hit or miss whether or not you will have problems or not.
- buyucu 2y ago
  you're just one grumpy border agent away from being treated in an inhuman way. I don't want that risk in my life.

TylerE 2y ago

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ericmay 2y ago

The travel warning that the UK issued basically said "follow the rules when trying to enter the USA" which is kind of common sense anyway... You should comply with all entry, visa and other conditions of entry. The authorities in the US set and enforce entry rules strictly. You may be liable to arrest or detention if you break the rules. If you’re not sure how these requirements apply to you, contact the US Embassy or a consulate in the UK. [1] A little annoying given the current political climate, but it's not really that big of a deal. [1] https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa/entry-requirements

nimish 2y ago
Yes and the UK has very strict entry rules of its own, that it is eager and willing to enforce unless you fall into some special category. Calling this a "warning" is stupid.
- klipt 2y ago
  If an American tries to enter the UK on the wrong visa, will they be thrown into a for-profit prison? Or just be turned around?
  - masfuerte 2y ago
    An American relative of mine had this experience. She was entering the UK legally but the immigration officer decided something was off and they have an absolute right to decline entry. The last flight back to the USA had gone so she was held overnight in a local police station before flying back the next day. You do at least get your own cell in the UK.
    - klipt 2y ago
      That's unpleasant but flying back on the next available flight is still way better than the Canadian woman who was held for weeks despite begging to pay for her own ticket back to Canada. The UK situation you describe has clear reasoning. The US system just seems to be throwing people into a black hole without rules.

jll29 2y ago

I recommend you don't visit the US, no matter where you are from, unless your life depends on it.

burningChrome 2y ago

If you're not a part of what they're profiling travelers for - the obvious stuff like drug smuggling, bringing copious amounts of money into or out of the country, or other contraband, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Anecdotal evidence is my last trip to go snowboarding in Banff in Alberta Canada. My parents came along because they'd never been to Banff and were excited about seeing the Canadian Rockies. In any case, we land in Alberta and are going through customs. Scary looking dude looks at our passports and asks what we're there for. I say, "snowboarding" my mom says, "site seeing" we immediately shoot each other a look like, "Oh shit, that wasn't good.". Without a blink, border guy told us to move on and keep the line moving. We both spoke about it and agreed that whatever they were looking for, we clearly did not fit the profile they were screening for.

ziddoap 2y ago
Just to clarify, parent poster asked about visiting the US but it appears your comment is about visiting Canada. Are you a US citizen that was visiting Canada, or did I misread your comment?