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How much dairy does the US import from Canada? Answer: there is essentially no dairy trade between the countries. The US is, of course, free to have a reciproc

by vkou 2y ago

How much dairy does the US import from Canada? Answer: there is essentially no dairy trade between the countries. The US is, of course, free to have a reciprocal tariff policy.

cmrdporcupine 2y ago
The US already has heavy agri subsidies, so it's a completely hypocritical comparison. And a pointless one, as you pointed out. It's fascinating to watch the spread of official propaganda talking points through online media. This one started two-three weeks ago, presumably from Trump. People who knew nothing about the Canadian dairy market suddenly "experts"
- kolanos 2y ago
  Canada has its own agricultural subsidies, in fact they're almost double that of the U.S. [0] > The OECD estimated the subsidy equivalent in 2012 (producer support estimate) in all Canadian agriculture represented 18% of the value of the industry with most of this amount going to supply managed sectors which represent only a percentage of Canadian agriculture. Critics say that this results in a "much higher effective subsidy" for supply-managed industries. > According to Hall Findlay's 2012 study, in the European Union, the effective subsidies were 27%, with the United States at 10%, Australia (6%), New Zealand (1%), Brazil (6%), and China at 9%. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_and_poultry_supply_management_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_and_poultry_supply_manag...
  - cmrdporcupine 2y ago
    ... "for supply managed industries" In the end Canada is a net importer of US agricultural products. By far. Or at least was until last month. The stuff is rotting on the shelves now. So what's the gripe? We import more food products than we export, and we overwhelmingly consume US agricultural goods. Just not dairy and eggs (or poultry, I guess) Is the concern that the US dominance of our economy is not total enough? Sounds like a justification for annexation, for sure.
    - kolanos 2y ago
      > In the end Canada is a net importer of US agricultural products. By far. This hasn't been remotely true since the early 70's.
kolanos 2y ago
The United States has a trade deficit of 131.38% for dairy products with Canada. [0] The United States dairy imports from Canada are far from zero, measured in the hundreds of millions. > United States Imports from Canada of Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products was US$324.96 Million during 2024, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. > Cheese and curd $87.54M 2024 > Buttermilk, yogurt, kephir, flavored or not $86.00M 2024 > Whey and milk products not specified elsewhere, flavored or not $55.76M 2024 > Birds' eggs, in the shell, fresh, preserved or cooked $43.37M 2024 > Honey, natural $27.48M 2024 > Milk and cream, not concentrated or sweetened $11.11M 2024 > Birds' eggs, not in shell and yolks, fresh, dry $8.29M 2024 > Butter and other fats and oils derived from milk $3.84M 2024 > Milk and cream, concentrated or sweetened $1.43M 2024 > Edible products of animal origin, not specified elsewhere $144.51K 2024 [0]: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/canada/dairy-products-eggs-honey-edible-products https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/canada/da...

by vkou 2y ago

How much dairy does the US import from Canada? Answer: there is essentially no dairy trade between the countries. The US is, of course, free to have a reciprocal tariff policy.

cmrdporcupine 2y ago

The US already has heavy agri subsidies, so it's a completely hypocritical comparison. And a pointless one, as you pointed out. It's fascinating to watch the spread of official propaganda talking points through online media. This one started two-three weeks ago, presumably from Trump. People who knew nothing about the Canadian dairy market suddenly "experts"

kolanos 2y ago
Canada has its own agricultural subsidies, in fact they're almost double that of the U.S. [0] > The OECD estimated the subsidy equivalent in 2012 (producer support estimate) in all Canadian agriculture represented 18% of the value of the industry with most of this amount going to supply managed sectors which represent only a percentage of Canadian agriculture. Critics say that this results in a "much higher effective subsidy" for supply-managed industries. > According to Hall Findlay's 2012 study, in the European Union, the effective subsidies were 27%, with the United States at 10%, Australia (6%), New Zealand (1%), Brazil (6%), and China at 9%. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_and_poultry_supply_management_in_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dairy_and_poultry_supply_manag...
- cmrdporcupine 2y ago
  ... "for supply managed industries" In the end Canada is a net importer of US agricultural products. By far. Or at least was until last month. The stuff is rotting on the shelves now. So what's the gripe? We import more food products than we export, and we overwhelmingly consume US agricultural goods. Just not dairy and eggs (or poultry, I guess) Is the concern that the US dominance of our economy is not total enough? Sounds like a justification for annexation, for sure.
  - kolanos 2y ago
    > In the end Canada is a net importer of US agricultural products. By far. This hasn't been remotely true since the early 70's.

kolanos 2y ago

The United States has a trade deficit of 131.38% for dairy products with Canada. [0] The United States dairy imports from Canada are far from zero, measured in the hundreds of millions. > United States Imports from Canada of Dairy products, eggs, honey, edible products was US$324.96 Million during 2024, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. > Cheese and curd $87.54M 2024 > Buttermilk, yogurt, kephir, flavored or not $86.00M 2024 > Whey and milk products not specified elsewhere, flavored or not $55.76M 2024 > Birds' eggs, in the shell, fresh, preserved or cooked $43.37M 2024 > Honey, natural $27.48M 2024 > Milk and cream, not concentrated or sweetened $11.11M 2024 > Birds' eggs, not in shell and yolks, fresh, dry $8.29M 2024 > Butter and other fats and oils derived from milk $3.84M 2024 > Milk and cream, concentrated or sweetened $1.43M 2024 > Edible products of animal origin, not specified elsewhere $144.51K 2024 [0]: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/canada/dairy-products-eggs-honey-edible-products https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/canada/da...