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I get the feeling that I'm going to read a blog post in a few years telling us that the CDN companies have been selling everything pulled through their cache to
by blibble 2y ago
I get the feeling that I'm going to read a blog post in a few years telling us that the CDN companies have been selling everything pulled through their cache to the AI companies since 2022
- nottorp 2y agoAnd even if they don't, is everything depending on Cloudflare to stay online a good thing?
- sshine 2y agoIt’s a terrible thing. Cloudflare is the company I hate the most: I think (what I know of) their tech is done right, and they’re just too big to put my eggs in their basket.
- koakuma-chan 2y agoWhy is nobody building a better product?
- nisegami 2y agoBecause Cloudflare's products are very good. The issues people have with Cloudflare are more philosophical and won't be resolved by building a better product. GP's concerns would best be rectified by dozens of commodity-like competitors of similar quality.
- nottorp 2y agoExactly. Not even social networking is bad per se. It’s concentration of power that’s bad. Considering recent events especially, is all the worlds traffic passing through a cdn subject to a certain jurisdiction a good thing?
- Dwedit 2y agoYou mean why is nobody making arrangements to put their own server into thousands and thousands of ISP datacenters?
- scryers_bloom 2y agoBy snuffing out competition through economies of scale is one explanation.
- renewiltord 2y agoBecause their product is awesome dude. I don’t even know where to improve it. Love it as a user.
- seec 2y agoBecause their "product" isn't one born of actual needs and has to do with inherent weakness to the way internet and some protocol works. Using Cloudflare is not a permanent fix, just a bandage, and it's particularly bad that they'll use their quasi monopoly into strongarming business to pay large fees. It's basically racketeering, legal. If we are talking about the CDN and associated "software", last time I checked (a long time ago admittedly) it was nothing special.
- Aurornis 2y agoCDNs are a cash cow. They’re not going to set their reputation on fire and violate all of their security guarantees for negligible amounts of money.
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- mystified5016 2y agoSee absolutely every other sector of industry and economy for copious counter-examples. If there's profit on the table, capitalism will not allow it to sit there at any cost.
- sepositus 2y agoThe argument is that there's less profit in selling out user trust. Of course, this heavily depends on the context, especially if you have a regulatory lock-in where users can't leave. However, there are cases where keeping user trust _is_ the profitable route.
- littlestymaar 2y agoOh you mean like when Apple spent year claiming to be the champion of privacy when they in fact recorded all of what you said all the time and send it to its team to improve Siri[1]?! Did you see a mass exodus from Apple after that? I have seen barely any coverage this being covered outside of the French speaking world… There's too many shady practices for the consumer to track, and you cannot even move to an alternative since everybody is doing bad stuff. [1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/apple-whistleblower-europe-big-tech-272771 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/apple-whistleblower...
- sepositus 2y agoI understand where you're coming from, I'm just saying there's been many companies I've worked for where protecting the user _was_ the most profitable play. And that's what we did. Yes, you're less likely to see it in bigger corporations with ecosystem lock-in (like Apple) because the math begins to sway towards exploiting users being more profitable.