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There’s a clear and massive change in the number of people this is happening to since Trump started making executive orders though. The system was always evil,

• steveBK123 2y ago
  Right, one side looks at the machine and says "this is bad, needs reform".. The other side says "this is not bad enough, I am running on making this worse, and going to loudly broadcast how happy I am that I've made it worse". Seems quite different.
• 762236 2y ago
  Possibly enforcement has increased, as Trump ran on that, but the behavior towards those found violating their visa terms has always been like this.
  • steveBK123 2y ago
    If you think it's good, go ahead and just say it. Let's not play the Trumper parlour game of "sure he said it, but it didn't happen, ok maybe if it did happen it always happened.." I worked with many dozens to 100s of consultants over 20 years whose employers had very loose interpretations of what was allowed under ESTAs. Some of them had re-entry issues, but no one ever ended up in prison or chains like this. Do you know a lot of software engineers and white collar works this regularly happened to?
    • 762236 2y ago
      I know people that it happened to, white collar, from Germany. I don't know why you think I'm saying this is good, when I've called it sadistic. What's annoying is that people only care about it now because it helps them confirm their bias that Trump is evil. Sad.