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When there’s hostage situation, nations normally don’t skip straight to genocide. There should be an escalatory response. Genocide is way, way out there and mos
by octopoc 2y ago
When there’s hostage situation, nations normally don’t skip straight to genocide. There should be an escalatory response. Genocide is way, way out there and most people wouldn’t advocate genocide even if it was their own family who was captured. The fact that you don’t even realize you’ve skipped past all reasonable responses and settled on the most extreme, insane response, is why I’m asking you to self reflect.
Obviously, it was horrible for the hostages. I feel bad for them and I’m glad that many have been released.
But Israel’s response shows how insecure they are, how immature and dangerous they are.
Let’s be honest. All you have to do is admit Israel is committing genocide and is wrong to do so and start advocating for more peaceful measures, and by doing so you’ll discount the neonazis. I’m being really blunt here. Because right now your position is so extreme, so unwilling to truly change, that all your doing is making people who hate Jews look correct. Is that what you want?
In light of all that, please self reflect. I’m being your friend, I apologize for how painful this conversation is for you, but you have got to learn because you’re right, the stakes really are high, you are just playing by the wrong rules.
- epoxy_sauce 2y ago"Let's be honest" You just want him to concede your point so you feel better. You are not being his friend. Israel is under no definition committing genocide. Please self-reflect and admit this to yourself. Alas your position is too extreme and unwilling to change. You have terribly disingenuous rhetoric.
- octopoc 2y agoIt would be disingenuous if it weren’t for the fact that tens of thousands of innocent bystanders that Israel deemed subhuman are dead. That bloody smoking gun seems to be escaping you both. Even if you don’t think Israel’s neighbors deserve life, you have to recognize that the entirety of western civilization and the Islamic world both see what Israel is doing as reprehensible. Now I’m not asking you to say they’re right because they’re the vast majority (that would be subjective), what I’m asking you to agree with is that Israel needs to stop making everyone hate them, because it will be worse for Israel if everyone hates them. That is an objective fact I hope we can agree on, regardless of the value you place on human life.