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> Progress is good. "progress" is exactly why we are where we are today... Electric cars just perpetuates the same cycle, the only way out is a complete redesi

> Progress is good. "progress" is exactly why we are where we are today... Electric cars just perpetuates the same cycle, the only way out is a complete redesign of the system. Personal ownership of 2500kg hunks of metal to transport your lazy 70kg ass isn't anywhere close to sustainable. I bike everyday, and everyday I witness the same thing, hundreds and hundreds of cars, most are empty waiting on a parking spot, 90% of the rest are occupied by a single person, usually stuck in a traffic jam. EVs or not that's just pure madness and misallocation of resources. You're moving the needle 0.1mm backwards when we need to go back a good 720 degrees. But of course it's much nicer to have trailing dams in a country the average american can't place on a map than having a car idle in front of _your_ school

dastbe 2y ago
720 degrees is spinning in circles and ending up pointed right back where you started.
cbeach 2y ago
It's nice that you manage to live a simple life that doesn't require a car, but I assure you it's 100% necessary for me: * busy family of four with two young kids, both in different childcare settings * the UK climate * bulk shopping that is impossible to transport by bike, including heavy DIY stuff etc * transporting relatives etc * hospital visits (the UK NHS Ambulance service is basically unusable at this point. They didn't even come out to pick up my elderly nan after she fell down her stairs and was in an immobile heap on the ground for hours) * visiting relatives that are not readily accessible by public transport I have a driveway, so my car consumes no public space unless it's actively being driven, or parked for a short time in a car park. I feel the cycling / "active travel" advocacy movement is currently engaging in an ideological war against motorists - this is evident in the dreadful zero-sum policy making that's going on throughout the UK at the moment - road narrowing, model filters, "low traffic neighbourhoods" etc, which aim to change people's behaviour by artificially making life harder for motorists. However, what these ideologues don't understand is that busy families, elderly and disabled people absolutely rely on cars, and we will not be bullied into giving them up.

dastbe 2y ago

720 degrees is spinning in circles and ending up pointed right back where you started.

cbeach 2y ago

It's nice that you manage to live a simple life that doesn't require a car, but I assure you it's 100% necessary for me: * busy family of four with two young kids, both in different childcare settings * the UK climate * bulk shopping that is impossible to transport by bike, including heavy DIY stuff etc * transporting relatives etc * hospital visits (the UK NHS Ambulance service is basically unusable at this point. They didn't even come out to pick up my elderly nan after she fell down her stairs and was in an immobile heap on the ground for hours) * visiting relatives that are not readily accessible by public transport I have a driveway, so my car consumes no public space unless it's actively being driven, or parked for a short time in a car park. I feel the cycling / "active travel" advocacy movement is currently engaging in an ideological war against motorists - this is evident in the dreadful zero-sum policy making that's going on throughout the UK at the moment - road narrowing, model filters, "low traffic neighbourhoods" etc, which aim to change people's behaviour by artificially making life harder for motorists. However, what these ideologues don't understand is that busy families, elderly and disabled people absolutely rely on cars, and we will not be bullied into giving them up.