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I always am a bit skeptical of these demos, and indeed I think they didn't put much effort into getting the most out of ElevenLabs. In the demo, they used the B

I always am a bit skeptical of these demos, and indeed I think they didn't put much effort into getting the most out of ElevenLabs. In the demo, they used the Brian voice. For the first example, I can get this in ElevenLabs [1]. Stability was set to 20 here and all the other settings were at their default. Having stability at the default of 50 sounds more like what is in the demo on the site [2]. Having said that, I'm fully in favor of open source and am a big proponent of open source models like this. ElevenLabs in particular has the highest quality (I tested a lot of models for a tool I'm building [3]), but the pricing is also 400 times more expensive than the rest. You easily pay multiple dollars per minute of text-to-speech generation. For people interested, the best audio quality I could get so far is [4]. Someone told me he wouldn't be able to tell that the voice was not real. [1]: https://elevenlabs.io/app/share/3NyQKlL6EeOHpIDtL5pA https://elevenlabs.io/app/share/3NyQKlL6EeOHpIDtL5pA [2]: https://elevenlabs.io/app/share/TUx4yluXtV3pFTHr7Cl7 https://elevenlabs.io/app/share/TUx4yluXtV3pFTHr7Cl7 [3]: https://github.com/transformrs/trv https://github.com/transformrs/trv [4]: https://youtu.be/Ni-dKlCpnb4 https://youtu.be/Ni-dKlCpnb4

Imustaskforhelp 2y ago
the [4] is such that since you've told me that its AI , my brain can say that of course its AI , but if you hadn't told me that , I might have thought that maybe this guy speaks like this or reading it in monotonous-ish way (like reading from a script?) and wants to sound professional. Crazy. Though I still wish open source to better than elevenlabs. but its all just a dream.
- thorum 2y ago
  It’s kind of like ChatGPT writing, where it can easily fool people who see it for the first time, but after a while you start to recognize the common patterns.
sebastiennight 2y ago
Great demo on #4 ; and content-wise, a good lesson I needed to be reminded of. I was such a fan of CoquiTTS and so happy when they launched a commercially licensed offering. I didn't mind taking a small hit on quality if it enabled us to support them. And then, the quality of the API outputs were lower than what the self-hosted open source Coqui model provided... I'm thinking this was one of the reasons usage was not at the level they hoped for, and they ended up folding. The saddest part is they still didn't assign commercial rights to the open-source model, so I think Coqui is in a dead-end now.

Imustaskforhelp 2y ago

the [4] is such that since you've told me that its AI , my brain can say that of course its AI , but if you hadn't told me that , I might have thought that maybe this guy speaks like this or reading it in monotonous-ish way (like reading from a script?) and wants to sound professional. Crazy. Though I still wish open source to better than elevenlabs. but its all just a dream.

thorum 2y ago
It’s kind of like ChatGPT writing, where it can easily fool people who see it for the first time, but after a while you start to recognize the common patterns.

sebastiennight 2y ago

Great demo on #4 ; and content-wise, a good lesson I needed to be reminded of. I was such a fan of CoquiTTS and so happy when they launched a commercially licensed offering. I didn't mind taking a small hit on quality if it enabled us to support them. And then, the quality of the API outputs were lower than what the self-hosted open source Coqui model provided... I'm thinking this was one of the reasons usage was not at the level they hoped for, and they ended up folding. The saddest part is they still didn't assign commercial rights to the open-source model, so I think Coqui is in a dead-end now.