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I’ve had metaphysical conversations with people who bring up that the universe is expanding at a faster rate and our ultimate result is to be all alone, with no

I’ve had metaphysical conversations with people who bring up that the universe is expanding at a faster rate and our ultimate result is to be all alone, with no hope for communicating with other potential civilizations. It’s a sobering reality and makes you question things. And if that turns out to be false, we need to remember the need to be humble and stop pretending we know everything!

suzzer99 2y ago
If other civilizations are like ours, I have zero faith in them surviving long enough after becoming technologically advanced to communicate with each other.
- citizenpaul 2y ago
  One of my "great filter" theories is that when a species gets technology they stop relying on "fittest evolution" and end up with a dependency on tech to literally stay alive. The species never realize this until even a small disruption in economy, supply chain makes them realize its too late.
  - mikhailfranco 2y ago
    The Machine Stops by E.M.Forster (1909) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/the%20machine%20stops.pdf https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/th...
weard_beard 2y ago
We need just enough faith in our conjectures to do the work. And a little shit talk on the side. What we don’t need is total control, children who smash other kids toys, sexism, bullying, drunk idiocy, and whining about long hours, derision of passion, or taunting people who try their best There’s a lot to do and not much time given
- boon 2y ago
  > whining about long hours I could get on board with the rest of your list, but this struck me as odd to include. Can you elaborate how it fits into that list?
  - weard_beard 2y ago
    "On Call" cannot be created or destroyed. Just moved around.
killerpopiller 2y ago
The dark forest theory is compelling hence it would be good not to be heard by other civilizations.
- jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
  With the way things are heading it seems we as a planet are too stupid to consider the dark forest theory. If it ever came to light that we were not alone and the other planet was actively hostile 30% of the US would scream as loud as they could into megaphones in the hopes of showing that other planet "what we are made of".

suzzer99 2y ago

If other civilizations are like ours, I have zero faith in them surviving long enough after becoming technologically advanced to communicate with each other.

citizenpaul 2y ago
One of my "great filter" theories is that when a species gets technology they stop relying on "fittest evolution" and end up with a dependency on tech to literally stay alive. The species never realize this until even a small disruption in economy, supply chain makes them realize its too late.
- mikhailfranco 2y ago
  The Machine Stops by E.M.Forster (1909) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/the%20machine%20stops.pdf https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/th...

weard_beard 2y ago

We need just enough faith in our conjectures to do the work. And a little shit talk on the side. What we don’t need is total control, children who smash other kids toys, sexism, bullying, drunk idiocy, and whining about long hours, derision of passion, or taunting people who try their best There’s a lot to do and not much time given

boon 2y ago
> whining about long hours I could get on board with the rest of your list, but this struck me as odd to include. Can you elaborate how it fits into that list?
- weard_beard 2y ago
  "On Call" cannot be created or destroyed. Just moved around.

killerpopiller 2y ago

The dark forest theory is compelling hence it would be good not to be heard by other civilizations.

jsbisviewtiful 2y ago
With the way things are heading it seems we as a planet are too stupid to consider the dark forest theory. If it ever came to light that we were not alone and the other planet was actively hostile 30% of the US would scream as loud as they could into megaphones in the hopes of showing that other planet "what we are made of".