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This is the tradeoff of accepting credit cards. Users access to a payment system that users trust because it generally gives them the benefit of the doubt, and
by dghlsakjg 2y ago
This is the tradeoff of accepting credit cards.
Users access to a payment system that users trust because it generally gives them the benefit of the doubt, and they don't face liability for fraud.
Merchants get access to a fast reliable system connected to billions of worldwide users, but are forced to adopt extremely customer friendly policies.
If you don't like Visa or Stripe's terms, don't accept them. Use ACH, or crypto, or whatever else other payment system you prefer, but be ready to have a VERY hard time attracting customers.
I get that it's annoying, I used to do payment tech for a subscription box, and people loved to open disputes when they forgot to cancel. But, it wasn't hard to dispute: we would send a copy of our terms of service showing that they agreed to the charge, and a copy of the shipping showing that the item was sent, as well as a log of all communications and interaction with the client (to prove that they hadn't requested cancellation). We had a script that could package all of this info for the dispute, so it normally took almost no time at all. Sometimes we had to eat the cost because the whole process is biased against merhchants.
The reality is that credit cards are one of the most enabling technologies for the internet. Should it be this way? I don't know. But in the real world, it is, so you can either opt in to the most popular payment system that gives you access to billions of people n exchange for disputes, or you don't.
- verzali 2y agoI get people claiming "fraudulent charges" when they forget to cancel. It is very hard to argue against that and the terms of service don't help much as evidence.
- dghlsakjg 2y agoWe could easily user activity logs that showed their login activity and what they did on each session. You can't prove a negative, but having all of that data for their entire account looks good. We could show that reminder emails were sent a week before fulfillment (with enough time to cancel), as well as shipping notifications. We really weren't into tricking people, and we would do everything we could to accommodate if you contacted us directly.