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20 an hour USD is what a dev makes in Canada. Crazy he couldn't save up enough in America to retire. Also crazy to read a sob story about the working poor in A
by Gothmog69 2y ago
20 an hour USD is what a dev makes in Canada. Crazy he couldn't save up enough in America to retire. Also crazy to read a sob story about the working poor in America and think... "must be nice"
- intelVISA 2y agoWow, at that rate I'm surprised we don't see more Canadian startups. Solo SaaS could make 10x that, maybe they don't have many devs that actually ship value?
- WorkerBee28474 2y agoThat's a junior dev rate, and a low one. A good job for a new grad would be USD 30/hour.
- intelVISA 2y agoRight so at those rates why don't more Canadians gamble on running their own shop? Not like a CAN company selling worldwide, paying 1/3 salaries, only makes 1/3 the revenue? Unless corp taxes are 3x US?
- willhslade 2y agoMarket is 1/10th USA size.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 2y agoWell, seniors in Vancouver can go for 160k/year (cad), still low for the cost of life, but better. 180 for lead is possible too. Over that I don't know.
- badc0ffee 2y agoI don't think that's quite true. When I was working for a large/stable/boring company in Calgary, the lowest paid green devs made more than C$56k/year.
- Jtsummers 2y agoAssuming full-time work (40 hour per week, 52 weeks a year with paid leave and holidays), that's about $27/hour CAD or $19/hour USD. If they work more than 40/week then that effective hourly rate drops quickly.
- badc0ffee 2y agoThat's what I mean, I was converting US$20/hour to C$/year and assuming 2000 hours/year. None of these people were paid hourly. I think a starting rate for devs in a software shop is probably closer to C$75k/yr = US$26/hr, at least in this market. Still lower than I expected, but not US$20.
- Jtsummers 2y agoGot it, I misunderstood your earlier comment as putting $56k as a lower bound on starting pay.