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Most people joining unions are concerned about horrible working conditions and lack of basic respect and rights. The stock price should not be put above basic d

Most people joining unions are concerned about horrible working conditions and lack of basic respect and rights. The stock price should not be put above basic decency.

Vaslo 2y ago
Source?
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  corollary: who is joining a union to pump their stock price? This is all opinionistic, but use a bit of logic here. Ask yourself what a union is and what the incentives are.
short_sells_poo 2y ago
It is truly amazing how violently certain people want to fight against their own rights and organizations whose purpose is to fight for those rights.
- ThrowawayR2 2y ago
  Workers in industries where there's an oversupply of labor driving down wages want unions. Workers in industries where there's an undersupply of labor don't care because there's no benefit to them. What's amazing about that?
  - mullingitover 2y ago
    Unions in the past century were strongest when there was a chronic labor shortage. Somewhere around the 1970s the labor shortage ended, and that's also about the time that union power began a serious decline. Negotiating solo against a large organization with an available labor pool is the weakest possible position, even if the type of talent is in demand. I'd argue that people always want the power in compensation negotiations that's only obtainable by forming strong associations. It's just a matter of whether they can get it or not based on the political power of their counterparties. This type of conflict has been happening since the dawn of civilization.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  There are some people who are a part of (or want to be a part of) companies and unions are venom to them. This narrative of Americans being future millionaires really clouds judgement on the reality that many can barely escape scape out of minimum wage labor. Very few millioaires (and no bilionaire) got where they were by starting out a minimum wage.

Most people joining unions are concerned about horrible working conditions and lack of basic respect and rights. The stock price should not be put above basic decency.

Vaslo 2y ago

Source?

johnnyanmac 2y ago
corollary: who is joining a union to pump their stock price? This is all opinionistic, but use a bit of logic here. Ask yourself what a union is and what the incentives are.

short_sells_poo 2y ago

It is truly amazing how violently certain people want to fight against their own rights and organizations whose purpose is to fight for those rights.

ThrowawayR2 2y ago
Workers in industries where there's an oversupply of labor driving down wages want unions. Workers in industries where there's an undersupply of labor don't care because there's no benefit to them. What's amazing about that?
- mullingitover 2y ago
  Unions in the past century were strongest when there was a chronic labor shortage. Somewhere around the 1970s the labor shortage ended, and that's also about the time that union power began a serious decline. Negotiating solo against a large organization with an available labor pool is the weakest possible position, even if the type of talent is in demand. I'd argue that people always want the power in compensation negotiations that's only obtainable by forming strong associations. It's just a matter of whether they can get it or not based on the political power of their counterparties. This type of conflict has been happening since the dawn of civilization.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
There are some people who are a part of (or want to be a part of) companies and unions are venom to them. This narrative of Americans being future millionaires really clouds judgement on the reality that many can barely escape scape out of minimum wage labor. Very few millioaires (and no bilionaire) got where they were by starting out a minimum wage.