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Re: Left behind My elderly parents can't even go out to eat dinner in the town they've lived in for 60 years because they don't have the phone app to pay the pa

Re: Left behind My elderly parents can't even go out to eat dinner in the town they've lived in for 60 years because they don't have the phone app to pay the parking meters in town. So they have to drive out of town to a restaurant with a parking lot.

bee_rider 2y ago
That’s a shame. We’ve mostly been switched to some app-powered thing in my town as well, but they included some kiosk things as well. IMO, the apps are quite nice actually and I enjoy not having to ever run out to a meter anyway, but requiring a phone should not be considered meeting accessibility requirements.
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- neuralRiot 2y ago
  You need to download-install an app , enter your info, your vehicle info, your credit card, the location where you’re parking, the time (which is non-refundable/ transferible if you pay too much) to park. Sometimes all this BS takes longer than the time you wish to park, I rather risk getting a ticket or just go somewhere else. All this because cities just lease the operation to 3rd parties.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    It is sort of a pain the first time. But once you have it set up, it can be quite convenient (of course, as long as the app is well written and saves/detects the right data, that is!). But yeh, I definitely agree it can be a pain.
ddejohn 2y ago
And then throw QR code menus into the mix. I'm 35 and I have to zoom so far in to be able to read the menu, which then also involves having to scroll horizontally to fully read most menu items, which makes it easy to lose your place, etc. Being elderly, the frustration must be unbearable.
- SirFatty 2y ago
  Not to mention that at this point, QR codes are vector for phishing. People aren't nearly careful enough scanning those things. https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/scammers-target-desperate-ev-drivers-with-fraudulent-qr-codes https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/scammers-t...
- hattmall 2y ago
  I'm happy that died around me. QR code menus suck.
bongodongobob 2y ago
Society changes. Smartphones are 20 years old at this point and no longer require you to drop $1k+ up front for one. Should smart phones be required for everything? No. But progress is gonna progress. Who even carries coins with them these days?
- bigstrat2003 2y ago
  Requiring a smartphone isn't progress. Offering the option to use a smartphone is progress.
  - bongodongobob 2y ago
    Yeah it is. The amount of work and bullshit to collect coins from parking meters is beyond stupid when we can do it digitally.
    - icehawk 2y ago
      Requiring an app to park my car is beyond stupid.
      - bongodongobob 2y ago
        Putting metal tokens in a bucket is smart?
        rightbyte 2y ago
        I prefer that to apps, yes.
        dartos 2y ago
        Metal tokens that don’t change in functionality at the whims of a random VP at some private company? Yes. High tech != smart.
        n4r9 2y ago
        The machine can offer credit/debit card payment as well.
cogman10 2y ago
Honestly, I wonder if this is something that could be legally challenged under the ADA. Exclusions due to your age aren't legal and not owning a smart phone is very much an age thing.
dasil003 2y ago
fuck those apps though, seriously
user9999999999 2y ago
if that's true, that's extremely rage inducing. also that sounds like an accessibility violation. which town is this?
bmitc 2y ago
Do the signs not have phone numbers on them for both calling and texting?

bee_rider 2y ago

That’s a shame. We’ve mostly been switched to some app-powered thing in my town as well, but they included some kiosk things as well. IMO, the apps are quite nice actually and I enjoy not having to ever run out to a meter anyway, but requiring a phone should not be considered meeting accessibility requirements.

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neuralRiot 2y ago
You need to download-install an app , enter your info, your vehicle info, your credit card, the location where you’re parking, the time (which is non-refundable/ transferible if you pay too much) to park. Sometimes all this BS takes longer than the time you wish to park, I rather risk getting a ticket or just go somewhere else. All this because cities just lease the operation to 3rd parties.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  It is sort of a pain the first time. But once you have it set up, it can be quite convenient (of course, as long as the app is well written and saves/detects the right data, that is!). But yeh, I definitely agree it can be a pain.

ddejohn 2y ago

And then throw QR code menus into the mix. I'm 35 and I have to zoom so far in to be able to read the menu, which then also involves having to scroll horizontally to fully read most menu items, which makes it easy to lose your place, etc. Being elderly, the frustration must be unbearable.

SirFatty 2y ago
Not to mention that at this point, QR codes are vector for phishing. People aren't nearly careful enough scanning those things. https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/scammers-target-desperate-ev-drivers-with-fraudulent-qr-codes https://www.designnews.com/automotive-engineering/scammers-t...
hattmall 2y ago
I'm happy that died around me. QR code menus suck.

bongodongobob 2y ago

Society changes. Smartphones are 20 years old at this point and no longer require you to drop $1k+ up front for one. Should smart phones be required for everything? No. But progress is gonna progress. Who even carries coins with them these days?

bigstrat2003 2y ago
Requiring a smartphone isn't progress. Offering the option to use a smartphone is progress.
- bongodongobob 2y ago
  Yeah it is. The amount of work and bullshit to collect coins from parking meters is beyond stupid when we can do it digitally.
  - icehawk 2y ago
    Requiring an app to park my car is beyond stupid.
    - bongodongobob 2y ago
      Putting metal tokens in a bucket is smart?
      - rightbyte 2y ago
        I prefer that to apps, yes.
      - dartos 2y ago
        Metal tokens that don’t change in functionality at the whims of a random VP at some private company? Yes. High tech != smart.
      - n4r9 2y ago
        The machine can offer credit/debit card payment as well.

cogman10 2y ago

Honestly, I wonder if this is something that could be legally challenged under the ADA. Exclusions due to your age aren't legal and not owning a smart phone is very much an age thing.

dasil003 2y ago

fuck those apps though, seriously

user9999999999 2y ago

if that's true, that's extremely rage inducing. also that sounds like an accessibility violation. which town is this?

bmitc 2y ago

Do the signs not have phone numbers on them for both calling and texting?