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There are certain historical inadequacies in the article. "That is, the Apollo Program brought the country together in the turbulent 1960s and helped make ever

There are certain historical inadequacies in the article. "That is, the Apollo Program brought the country together in the turbulent 1960s and helped make everyone feel good about the country" This certainly was not 100% true, as some communities protested against Apollo program [1], even though, overall, the progress it has caused helped eventually those communities as well. Nevertheless there were kind of bipartisan agreement to push this program which, in current situation of the divide in the society, would be hard to achieve, given some program pitfalls, like the tragic catastrophe of Apollo 1, which killed Virgil Grissom, Edward Higgins White and Roger Chaffee (worth to not forget those people, who sacrificed their lives for humanity progress). Kennedy (and his wife) personality helped here a lot too, with some murky person, like Nixon, or someone featureless like Johnson it would've been more difficult. Also the claim that 1960s were turbulent is not really correct. In fact, 1970s were really turbulent with the rise of domestic terrorism [2][3]. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/14/apollo-11-civil-rights-black-america-moon https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/14/apollo-11-ci... [2] https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP_TEVUS_Terrorist-Attacks-US_1970-2013_Overview-508.pdf https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP... [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States

cco 2y ago
The late 60s definitely qualify as turbulent. What is your claim in the negative?
- creaghpatr 2y ago
  I think OP meant relative to the 70s.
culi 2y ago
Even today this topic is often brought up in rap lyrics. Quest's last album had a song called "The Space Program" which featured the hook: "There ain't a space program for niggas Yeah, you stuck here, nigga" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song)
- DoesntMatter22 2y ago
  What a poet
  - culi 2y ago
    That's a hook but yeah Tribe Called Quest is one of the most interesting groups in rap to listen to if you're listening for lyrical content
    - DoesntMatter22 2y ago
      I was being sarcastic...
- tyg13 2y ago
  I particularly like how they use `space` in two different ways, from Q-Tip's second verse: These notions and ideas and citizens live in space I chuckle just like all of y'all, absurdity, after all Takes money to get it running and money for trees to fall Imagine for one second all the people are colored, please Imagine for one second all the people in poverty No matter the skin tone, culture or time zone Think the ones who got it Would even think to throw you a bone? Moved you out your neighborhood, did they find you a home? Nah cypher, probably no place to Imagine if this shit was really talkin’ about space, dude While the rich and powerful imagine of blasting off to outer space, advancing the frontiers of humanity, boldly going where no man has gone before -- the poor still find themselves squabbling for just a little space on the planet we all call home. Imagine if 'space program' really meant 'space' program?
  - culi 2y ago
    Yes the layered meaning is beautiful. It's both a meta point on the verse itself as well as a criticism about the political motivations behind "the space program" Thanks for posting it here
dragonwriter 2y ago
> Nevertheless there were kind of bipartisan agreement to push this program which, in current situation of the divide in the society, would be hard to achieve, Note that the bipartisanship of the post-WW2, pre-2000s period was almost entirely a product of the long series of overlapping political realignments going on, which left the main political divides in the country poorly aligned with the split between the major parties—there was intense political polarization, and at many times intense political violence, but it wasn't partisan because the splits cut across rather than between the major parties. > Also the claim that 1960s were turbulent is not really correct. In fact, 1970s were really turbulent with the rise of domestic terrorism Thr 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s were all turbulent, and domestic terrorism (including state and state-tolerated terrorism, particularly around racial issues) was quite prominent in the 1950s; “domestic terrorism” was not unique to the 1970s, though calling domestic political violence “terrorism” may have increased then.
pimlottc 2y ago
I think you meant “inaccuracies”

cco 2y ago

The late 60s definitely qualify as turbulent. What is your claim in the negative?

creaghpatr 2y ago
I think OP meant relative to the 70s.

culi 2y ago

Even today this topic is often brought up in rap lyrics. Quest's last album had a song called "The Space Program" which featured the hook: "There ain't a space program for niggas Yeah, you stuck here, nigga" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Program_(song)

DoesntMatter22 2y ago
What a poet
- culi 2y ago
  That's a hook but yeah Tribe Called Quest is one of the most interesting groups in rap to listen to if you're listening for lyrical content
  - DoesntMatter22 2y ago
    I was being sarcastic...
tyg13 2y ago
I particularly like how they use `space` in two different ways, from Q-Tip's second verse: These notions and ideas and citizens live in space I chuckle just like all of y'all, absurdity, after all Takes money to get it running and money for trees to fall Imagine for one second all the people are colored, please Imagine for one second all the people in poverty No matter the skin tone, culture or time zone Think the ones who got it Would even think to throw you a bone? Moved you out your neighborhood, did they find you a home? Nah cypher, probably no place to Imagine if this shit was really talkin’ about space, dude While the rich and powerful imagine of blasting off to outer space, advancing the frontiers of humanity, boldly going where no man has gone before -- the poor still find themselves squabbling for just a little space on the planet we all call home. Imagine if 'space program' really meant 'space' program?
- culi 2y ago
  Yes the layered meaning is beautiful. It's both a meta point on the verse itself as well as a criticism about the political motivations behind "the space program" Thanks for posting it here

dragonwriter 2y ago

> Nevertheless there were kind of bipartisan agreement to push this program which, in current situation of the divide in the society, would be hard to achieve, Note that the bipartisanship of the post-WW2, pre-2000s period was almost entirely a product of the long series of overlapping political realignments going on, which left the main political divides in the country poorly aligned with the split between the major parties—there was intense political polarization, and at many times intense political violence, but it wasn't partisan because the splits cut across rather than between the major parties. > Also the claim that 1960s were turbulent is not really correct. In fact, 1970s were really turbulent with the rise of domestic terrorism Thr 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s were all turbulent, and domestic terrorism (including state and state-tolerated terrorism, particularly around racial issues) was quite prominent in the 1950s; “domestic terrorism” was not unique to the 1970s, though calling domestic political violence “terrorism” may have increased then.

pimlottc 2y ago

I think you meant “inaccuracies”